It sounds really delicious the way you grind it yourself - I've never tried that.

I get the feeling that it's also quite strong though? Like espressos are? But much nicer?

I do like strong coffee. I don't really know about espressos. I know what I love and I don't do a lot of experimenting with coffee. You don't play games with the elixir of life.

I had an espresso once and somehow I got to the Moon and I can't get back send help and/or another espresso plz.

(December 11, 2015 at 10:26 am)Losty Wrote: You don't play games with the elixir of life.

That's a sigworthy expression

(December 10, 2015 at 6:53 pm)Amine Wrote:

(December 10, 2015 at 6:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How can someone's beliefs be effecting you negatively if they are good people living their own lives the best way they know how and aren't doing anything to hurt anyone?

Their view of "not hurting anyone" may be different depending on their beliefs. That's the problem. Everyone thinks they are the good guys. If you're Catholic, then perhaps abortion is a good example to use. If Catholicism is correct, then abortion could be a terrible atrocity on par with or exceeding the Holocaust*. This would make atheists who support abortion very harmful people indeed, although they believe what they are doing is good. On the other hand, if atheism is true then aborting an insentient blob of cells (leaving later term abortions alone for now) is completely harmless, and all Christians who make this problem central to their lives are wasting enormous amounts of time which could be spent far more productively.

We could think of many more examples like this.

*As a side note, I always felt that if Christianity were true aborting an embryo or fetus would be doing it the favor of sending it directly to heaven. I wish I would have been aborted, if that's the case. But this is beside the point.

In what way am I making the world a worst place?

(December 11, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 10, 2015 at 6:53 pm)Amine Wrote: Their view of "not hurting anyone" may be different depending on their beliefs. That's the problem. Everyone thinks they are the good guys. If you're Catholic, then perhaps abortion is a good example to use. If Catholicism is correct, then abortion could be a terrible atrocity on par with or exceeding the Holocaust*. This would make atheists who support abortion very harmful people indeed, although they believe what they are doing is good. On the other hand, if atheism is true then aborting an insentient blob of cells (leaving later term abortions alone for now) is completely harmless, and all Christians who make this problem central to their lives are wasting enormous amounts of time which could be spent far more productively.

We could think of many more examples like this.

*As a side note, I always felt that if Christianity were true aborting an embryo or fetus would be doing it the favor of sending it directly to heaven. I wish I would have been aborted, if that's the case. But this is beside the point.

In what way am I making the world a worst place?

I don't know what you believe so I can only guess. That's why I gave the abortion example. Your effect on the world depends on what is true. If you oppose abortion and it turns out that atheism is true, wouldn't you agree that you are making the world a worse place for people who want to get abortions? I know you have good intentions, but don't you think that believing in true things matters as to which decisions a person should make?

(December 10, 2015 at 6:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How can someone's beliefs be effecting you negatively if they are good people living their own lives the best way they know how and aren't doing anything to hurt anyone?

Because ones beliefs don't live in a vacuum. Your beliefs inform your actions.

The fact that you already hold un-evidenced, irrational beliefs, pollutes your mind and makes you more susceptible to buy into further un-evidenced and irrational beliefs. 

Many moderates among every religion, given the right circumstances, or maybe the right charismatic leader, can be radicalized.

The fact that you seem to be quite moderate, does not change the fact that calling yourself a Catholic, gives passive approval for the more radical among those that also label themselves as "Catholic". When the leaders of your church make idiotic statements, like, condoms cause the spread of aids in Africa, whether you like it or not, your belonging to that church is passively supportive of statements like that.

How do I cope with people disagreeing with me, really?

(December 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm)Amine Wrote:

(December 11, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: In what way am I making the world a worst place?

I don't know what you believe so I can only guess. That's why I gave the abortion example. Your effect on the world depends on what is true. If you oppose abortion and it turns out that atheism is true, wouldn't you agree that you are making the world a worse place for people who want to get abortions? I know you have good intentions, but don't you think that believing in true things matters as to which decisions a person should make?

Believing in truth matters, but I just think your approach to this is very black and white - "Either someone is making the world a worst place, or they are making it a better place." 

Sometimes we do things that are good, sometimes we do things that are not so good. This applies to every single person on earth. Even the best person is not perfect. I feel like having the attitude that "so and so is making the world a worst place because they are atheist, or because they are Christian, or whatever", is very small minded. We all contribute in good ways sometimes and in bad ways sometimes. In extreme cases we'll get people who are very bad and who's bad actions far outweigh whatever good they did - like Hitler. But that is the exception I think. I think most people are good people trying to live honest, good lives.   

I think it is unhealthy to be so concerned with whether or not another person believes in God. Everyone brings good and bad to the world regardless of what religion they are.

(December 11, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(December 10, 2015 at 6:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How can someone's beliefs be effecting you negatively if they are good people living their own lives the best way they know how and aren't doing anything to hurt anyone?

Because ones beliefs don't live in a vacuum. Your beliefs inform your actions.

The fact that you already hold un-evidenced, irrational beliefs, pollutes your mind and makes you more susceptible to buy into further un-evidenced and irrational beliefs. 

Many moderates among every religion, given the right circumstances, or maybe the right charismatic leader, can be radicalized.

The fact that you seem to be quite moderate, does not change the fact that calling yourself a Catholic, gives passive approval for the more radical among those that also label themselves as "Catholic". When the leaders of your church make idiotic statements, like, condoms cause the spread of aids in Africa, whether you like it or not, your belonging to that church is passively supportive of statements like that.

I'm not "moderate" at all. I'm a devout, practicing Catholic and I agree with and stand by all the doctrinal teachings of the Church.