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Intelligent Design
RE: Intelligent Design
No thanks Smile

Reality has no design... nature has no mind.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 26, 2015 at 10:48 am)Evie Wrote: No thanks Smile

Reality has no design... nature has no mind.

I agree that nature has no mind. I don't understand why you would bring that up though, I hadn't said that nature has a mind in any of my posts.
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RE: Intelligent Design
Ah pool, always the rebel. Big Grin
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RE: Intelligent Design
You still haven't gotten around to showing that there are any rules imposed, let alone that anything is designed (or that your language is even capable of making such a distinction to begin with).    You're going to need to at least provide an example of something that matches your definition of designed, even if I don't agree with that definition, otherwise you're talking directly out of your ass. If we don't understand, perhaps it's because you have failed to deliver?
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 26, 2015 at 10:31 am)pool Wrote:
(December 26, 2015 at 10:27 am)Evie Wrote: Facepalm

Pool you didn't say "I have already shown examples" you said "I can show examples", that's not past tense... so show them.

I can show examples means that I am capable of presenting examples. It does not mean that I'm going to show examples. It also doesn't mean that I have already shown examples, which is why I asked Stimbo to read the previous posts through my next post.

And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
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Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed?

Chronic backache from walking upright.  If there was a "designer" he sucks balls.

Lol, yeah, plus having your butt so close to the other holes!
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If there was a "designer" he sucks balls.

Which is a good trick, especially with chronic backache. I might be prepared to worship anyone who could do that.
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 26, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You still haven't gotten around to showing that there are any rules imposed, let alone that anything is designed (or that your language is even capable of making such a distinction to begin with).    You're going to need to at least provide an example of something that matches your definition of designed, even if I don't agree with that definition, otherwise you're talking directly out of your ass.  If we don't understand, perhaps it's because you have failed to deliver?

Why would I want to jump to step 2 without completing step 1?
Let's deal with the definition of design for now. Why don't you agree with my definition of design?
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RE: Intelligent Design
(December 23, 2015 at 5:32 pm)Veritas Wrote: What's the best way to refute the argument that we were intelligently designed? I've seen the bit that Neil Degrasse Tyson did on it, but what else can I put into my arsenal? (More specifically, about how complex flowers are and other things in nature)

How about: "it doesn't seem likely to me (since I'm unaware of any magic genies capable of the feat)"?
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RE: Intelligent Design
@robvalue,

I thought about how you thought that a design can be achieved by random events is absurd.
Well it's not,

Consider the word "that".
Now consider a random event in which x number of 4 letter words is formed using random unrepeating letters, where each word is different from the words that were previously formed. After some x number you times you will get the word - "that".
See? A design achieved by random events.
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