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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 5:37 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 10:44 am)JBrentonK Wrote: Pocaracas: Hi JBrentonK, glad you could join us.
(December 29, 2015 at 10:44 am)JBrentonK Wrote: Delicate is correct, and you are incorrect. The reason is as follows, and is quite simple and to the point:
In Christianity, both the atheist and the agnostic go to hell for their disbelief in God. This belief is also epistemologically verified, absolutely certain, and under no circumstances true under any other condition.
Also, this is the reason why atheists do not hold a valid epistemic viewpoint, and many, many other standard issues.
Similarly, it is the reason for abandoning atheism entirely.
I actually did not understand that reason. It does not address anything I presented, nor does it add anything new to enforce the conclusion.
This here doesn't make any sense either:
(December 29, 2015 at 11:20 am)JBrentonK Wrote: Only provide proof you can disbelieve in God, downbeatplumb, and we will reconsider taking delicate's positions differently.
I begin to see why some people are calling you a poe... maybe you can clarify some of those issues above?
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 5:48 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 5:33 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I always miss the best threads. Can someone post a TL: DR? Np.
"Boo hoo, you guys are assholes, but imma change my ways. Haha, just kidding, checkmate atheist!"
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 5:50 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 5:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Np.
"Boo hoo, you guys are assholes, but imma change my ways. Haha, just kidding, checkmate atheist!"
Beats reading through 50 pages of shite. Now I can dedicate my time to my pizza threads.
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 5:56 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2015 at 6:00 pm by robvalue.)
We've been told repeatedly for what feels like years that all our objections are wrong, without it ever being explained what claims we are even supposedly objecting to. I've given up trying to get any sense out of this person.
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 5:59 pm
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(December 29, 2015 at 5:23 pm)JBrentonK Wrote: [...] You actually accept it's ok to be stupid, rock crushorish, and faithless, and ... Even Godless!
poe!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 6:00 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2015 at 6:00 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(December 29, 2015 at 5:33 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I always miss the best threads. Can someone post a TL: DR?
JKBenteleb taking it in the ass from Delicate then getting a bukkake from a group of black guys in a porn mansion in LA.
Then Jesus came in and dropped the money shot right on his chaps eye.
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 7:22 pm
(December 28, 2015 at 8:04 pm)Heat Wrote: (December 28, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Delicate Wrote: I think 1 and 2 are false. I've explained why elsewhere. You are sincerely wrong then, and I would like a reference to your explanation so I can correct you.
When playing silly bugger with delicate, I believe the following quote from War Games is the best advice:
"A strange game, the only winning move is not to play."
That's why I've stopped indulging his victim complex.
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 7:25 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 5:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: We've been told repeatedly for what feels like years that all our objections are wrong, without it ever being explained what claims we are even supposedly objecting to. I've given up trying to get any sense out of this person.
With theists it's basically this, in creating their own personal Jesus. About 40.000 different versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CVJFQkPkCg
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 7:40 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 5:33 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I always miss the best threads. Can someone post a TL: DR? (December 28, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Heat Wrote: Once upon a time a lion decided to venture out of his den. The lion did not anticipate that his prey would be directly next to a bear cave. The lion attempted to gently back away and apologize for intruding, remaining nearly silent, however it was too late, the lion made the same stupid mistake again and ended up backing in to a hunter's bear trap that was set not ten feet away from the bear cave, and was consequently violently trapped by it's stupidity while all the bears hurdled around the lion stuck in the trap and gently pawed at it, taunting, laughing on the inside as it stood there trapped with no where to go, as it finally met its inevitable doom.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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RE: Delicate Offers a Truce
December 29, 2015 at 8:45 pm
(December 29, 2015 at 7:40 pm)Heat Wrote: (December 29, 2015 at 5:33 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I always miss the best threads. Can someone post a TL: DR? (December 28, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Heat Wrote: Once upon a time a lion decided to venture out of his den. The lion did not anticipate that his prey would be directly next to a bear cave. The lion attempted to gently back away and apologize for intruding, remaining nearly silent, however it was too late, the lion made the same stupid mistake again and ended up backing in to a hunter's bear trap that was set not ten feet away from the bear cave, and was consequently violently trapped by it's stupidity while all the bears hurdled around the lion stuck in the trap and gently pawed at it, taunting, laughing on the inside as it stood there trapped with no where to go, as it finally met its inevitable doom.
I don't understand your metaphor.
I'm just a stupid atheist. 
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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