(January 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm)*Deidre* Wrote:

(January 5, 2016 at 10:33 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Oh, puLEEEEEZZE don't pretend you weren't trying to throw the stinky my way! I happen to be perfectly cool about it, not mad at all. I expect no more from theists who choose to spend their time here, and you happen to impress me above most in that category. What does matter, and what I will not let slide is when Christians hit-and-run, leaving misinformation behind. I'm not completely sure that you misunderstand (or did) the difference between a NTS fallacy and a distinction which is well-applied because the title in question is specifically-defined, and then I wanted to help you understand what that is.

You're welcome.

lol I understand, I do. Truly, and you needn't take my word for it...but truly...I'm not interested in changing anyone's minds here. I once identified as an atheist, and spent a lot of time here ...and made some dear e-friends along the way. I like it here, I guess. No agenda. But, if you convert...don't blame me. Just kidding!! 

Nice meeting you.

Perhaps you will, once again, deconvert someday?

(January 6, 2016 at 9:20 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: lol I understand, I do. Truly, and you needn't take my word for it...but truly...I'm not interested in changing anyone's minds here. I once identified as an atheist, and spent a lot of time here ...and made some dear e-friends along the way. I like it here, I guess. No agenda. But, if you convert...don't blame me. Just kidding!! 

Nice meeting you.

Perhaps you will, once again, deconvert someday?

It saddens me to say, I don't think she ever will. She was never rational to begin with.

This is not an attack on you, Deidre, so don't take it as such. And neither should anyone else. I'm simply making a claim about her state of mind, and I think reasonably so.

(January 6, 2016 at 9:37 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(January 6, 2016 at 9:20 am)Jehanne Wrote: Perhaps you will, once again, deconvert someday?

It saddens me to say, I don't think she ever will. She was never rational to begin with.

This is not an attack on you, Deidre, so don't take it as such. And neither should anyone else. I'm simply making a claim about her state of mind, and I think reasonably so.

She might come to refer to herself as being a "Christian atheist".  

I can see that. Someone can just say they think Jesus is a good role model, so they follow his example. But they don't think he was magic or anything. A Christian atheist.

(January 4, 2016 at 10:32 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I've answered this question in depth before:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-22860-po...#pid570496

Interestingly enough, the deeper I dig into the philosophical traditions of the Christian faith the more astounded I am of the subtlety of thought and careful distinctions the Schoolmen and Church Doctors made. The more I study, the certainty that God exists becomes increasing confirmed in my mind. Modern philosophy has made some important contributions particularly with respect to language and sign systems. Yet so much has been lost. The flippant responses to a great intellectual tradition bother me but part of me understands. I've been there so I know well the resistance. Many atheists assume, based on modern analytic approaches, that all previous demonstrations in favor of theism have been refuted. I have seen little evidence for this. It appears to be an argument from authority and an authority that doesn't even exist, no less.  There are legitimate challenges to Scholastic philosophy, which I find wanting, but no one on AF, except perhaps Nestor, has a good grip on what those might be.

I just read it. Awesome! I really admire you. 

(January 6, 2016 at 2:07 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(January 6, 2016 at 12:50 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: I am so lost, how can someone think their morality requires a god while simultaneously not believing in god?

I can imagine something like that. One may very well think God is imaginary, but is required for enforcing morality, for otherwise civilisation would be doomed if left to its own devices, consumed by the nihilism and self-hatred that comes with too much freedom of thought. Or so the argument would go, I can imagine.

Yes, this would be the argument for society governed by dictatorship (morality and derivative law from a single source), vs. by democracy.

(January 6, 2016 at 9:20 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(January 5, 2016 at 10:42 pm)*Deidre* Wrote: lol I understand, I do. Truly, and you needn't take my word for it...but truly...I'm not interested in changing anyone's minds here. I once identified as an atheist, and spent a lot of time here ...and made some dear e-friends along the way. I like it here, I guess. No agenda. But, if you convert...don't blame me. Just kidding!! 

Nice meeting you.

Perhaps you will, once again, deconvert someday?

I see my faith differently than before I deconverted. Mainly, it is more about spirituality and prayer than it is about "religion," if that makes sense. So, I'm at peace with it all now. Being happy whether you're an atheist or theist is the most important thing.

(January 6, 2016 at 9:37 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(January 6, 2016 at 9:20 am)Jehanne Wrote: Perhaps you will, once again, deconvert someday?

It saddens me to say, I don't think she ever will. She was never rational to begin with.

This is not an attack on you, Deidre, so don't take it as such. And neither should anyone else. I'm simply making a claim about her state of mind, and I think reasonably so.

We all fail to be rational about one thing or another. Perhaps you mean her views regarding matters of God/religion/spirituality were never rational even when she was an atheist.

Duplicate - I guess it happened while I thought I was in Edit mode.

How the F&# did I do this again?????
Sorry.