(January 15, 2016 at 4:28 pm)Vic Wrote:

(January 15, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Losty Wrote: For those of you who think you reserve the right to decide who can and cannot opine in this thread, kiss my booty.  

Lol. I get the sentiment of course but that's hardly an insult in your case

I could have said suck my dick but you'd have called me a potty mouth.

(January 14, 2016 at 4:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 14, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Vic Wrote: I really, really, really, REALLY hate the guilt by association fallacy. It's not an argument, it's a red herring at best.

Bullshit, first off the Allies put the heavy restrictions on Germany, NOT AN OUTRIGHT BAN, but heavy gun regulations on Germany after WW1. Hitler relaxed gun laws and expanded them to party and German loyalists. And it wasn't like Stalin and Hitler liked each other in any case.

So if gun huggers fear the left so much, remember there is no political party oath in the 2nd Amendment to own one, so if you are for gun rights then you also have to defend democrats rights to own them as well. So if liberal gun owners who voted for Obama and will Vote for either Hillary or Bernie then the only way to stop liberals is to do what Hitler did and demand a party nationalist oath as a litmus test for ownership.

Oh and you idiots don't understand that government even in Washington's time used the "militia" to preserve the union against moron anti taxers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

http://www.mcall.com/opinion/ithink/mc-o...story.html

Sorry guys, but on top of laws with just about every other product changing with changing technology, it is flat out absurd to think the founders intended no rules at all. They used the militia to preserve the country, not so John Wayne and Dirty Harry morons could falsely play victim.


I am sick of the paranoid crap from gun worshipers that if we vote to change laws that we will become a fascist state. GROW UP!

I grew up in a sort of rural setting, where I learned to respect guns before I ever shot any. Nobody got hurt, and I didn't even hunt because I don't enjoy killing (I still eat meat, but at least the farm-raised beasts get a simple and easy life, never saw the bolt coming). I don't own guns where I now live, don't see myself in a position to need one for what I do - but that's by my own judgment, which is mine alone to make, and I respect the right of others to decide that for themselves!

The area which I left behind is only slightly more populated than those where you will find the state prisons, and if you happen to live near one of them then you are probably not wealthy enough to afford either private, round-the-clock protection, nor an uncorrupted police force. Corruption of police is far worse than ordinary crime, and the runaway green light cops got to go and grab all the weapons they could carry is why the arms race between crime and police has escalated out of control. You may be an ignorant, tobacco-chewing dumbfuck, but when you don't trust the police who treat you like no-account scum, then in that case your judgement is correct! Therefore, if you are going to disarm the public, then disarm the domestic police too!

(January 14, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I agree with the red herring. Most European countries don't even allow people to possess firearm without passing several tests. And you need a cause. You can't get a gun because you feel you might need protection some day, you need to have reason why you might be in danger constantly. Obviously, cops and soldiers are authorized to have guns. I don't think there's any dictatorship here.

You shouldn't need to explain a need for owning a gun. Mortal enemies are made much faster than the bureaucratic issuing of gun licenses, so if you think you are just so good at making friends that future enemies are impossible for you as your interests clash up against this world, then I hope for your sake that you don't lose that delusion the hard way.

I -need- a rifle in order to place sub-MOA groupings at range.  Done.

(January 15, 2016 at 12:45 am)Losty Wrote: Some people are saying ban guns. Just very very few.

Every mutant moron from NYC / Long Island, who don't know the first thing about guns is screaming this!

(January 15, 2016 at 4:58 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:

(January 15, 2016 at 12:45 am)Losty Wrote: Some people are saying ban guns. Just very very few.

Every mutant moron from NYC / Long Island, who don't know the first thing about guns is screaming this!

Mutuant? So....none?

(January 15, 2016 at 12:53 am)Losty Wrote:

(January 15, 2016 at 12:51 am)Rhythm Wrote: Uuuuh..more than just "a few".  Remember, we've had some guns banned before.  Didn't work, they didn't even ban the guns they set out to ban (gun banners don't seem to know much about guns).

I didn't say "a few" I said "few". "A few" implies a number near 3. All I meant was compared to what most conservative media wants everyone to think, it's actually a small number.
The majority of people who want gun control are not advocating banning guns.

No, they wouldn't ban guns altogether, because they like their private, armed bodyguards just the way they are.

(January 15, 2016 at 5:04 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:

(January 15, 2016 at 12:53 am)Losty Wrote: I didn't say "a few" I said "few". "A few" implies a number near 3. All I meant was compared to what most conservative media wants everyone to think, it's actually a small number.
The majority of people who want gun control are not advocating banning guns.

No, they wouldn't ban guns altogether, because they like their private, armed bodyguards just the way they are.

I wasn't even talking about what "they" would or wouldn't do. I was just discussing what people advocate for.

(January 15, 2016 at 12:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Private possession.  The cops and the military would still be armed to the teeth.

Not the cops. The cops in the UK and Europe kept their guns low-key, thereby they avoided provoking an American-like arms race with their criminals.

(January 15, 2016 at 5:00 pm)Losty Wrote:

(January 15, 2016 at 4:58 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Every mutant moron from NYC / Long Island, who don't know the first thing about guns is screaming this!

Mutuant? So....none?

Well, if you want to play that cute sort of game, then maybe evolution didn't happen with you?
Far as humanity and empathy for those outside one's tiny world bubble goes, I have experienced how well this works in New York's crowded asshole, and all I can say is it really stinks.