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Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
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Nope, sorry.
Testimony is the claim, which you are making. Evidence is that which supports the claim. Acceptable evidence of a medical phenomena would include medical charts, peer reviewed articles in medical journals, EKGs, EEGs, etc. A YouTube video is not a credible source to back up a claim, otherwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZaJEMsSwM I just proved that chem trails are real.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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January 16, 2016 at 6:36 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2016 at 6:38 am by robvalue.)
If an account can be proof of itself, you can prove anything is true just by saying it.
Consider why you don't instantly believe that what happens in fictional stories actually occured in real life. If all you can is, "It's fiction" then we can just as easily say the same about holy books. Otherwise, you have to show what the difference is. Fiction can include any number of actual historical events, with varying degrees of accuracy. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (January 16, 2016 at 6:33 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Nope, sorry. okay genius, since your going to play that game, prove to me that dark mater and dark energy exists ? prove to me using ke = mv^2 + mgh that it exists? prove it prove F = ma prove E = kE + mGH etc prove to me ANY mathematical formulae is true? ps i am a trained physicist RE: Something to shake the very foundation of your lack of faith
January 16, 2016 at 6:44 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2016 at 6:48 am by yukapuka.)
here is something relevant to this discussion
the physical universe makes up only 0.2% is stars and solar systems of the universe 74% is dark energy and 24% is dark matter and what is dark matter and dark energy? what is anti matter?(opposite to physical perceptible matter) lets get quantum over here how do we know it exists? because people CLAIM it exists , and why and how do they claim it? and why do we believe it? why do people accept this but you wont accept the other observable and tangent evidence of a testimony ?
No one is basing life decisions on dark matter, or trying to convert people into dark matter cults, or killing people over not believing in it, even if this wasn't a faulty analogy.
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Nope. I'm not going to play that game. That's not how a discussion works. I have not made any of those claims, and I'm not interested in a juvenile battle of wits.
Let's stick to the claims that you have made. You claim that this man died for three days, was in multi-system organ failure, brain dead, for 72 hours, and made a full (or at least mostly full) recovery. It should be trivially easy to find the peer reviewed article describing this phenomenal occurrence. His doctors would have been scratching each others' throats just to get top billing on the article. So, let's have it.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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PS - A trained physicist would have more than a third grader's grasp on basic grammar and spelling.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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well unfortunately there is bias, thats the point
but when it comes to evidence, there is such as thing as CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence that is in FACT how we believe in dark matter and dark energy we have calculated that there isnt enough PHYSICAL matter to cause the energy required for the universe to behave the way it behaves and causes and effects from such things as universal gravitational constant or attractive forces between physical bodies the physical part of the universe is NOT ENOUGH to make the universe not only continue to expand and turn and mechanically revovle etc but to sustain itself so we go by opposites we say that X amount of energy is needed however since this is not observable and perceptible through physical matter we say it is called DARK energy and DARK matter i.e imperceptible it could be God directly for all we know or it could be something that is still a medium between God and the physical matter point is we believe in it CIRCUMSTANTIALLY same way we take testimony and believe in it CIRCUMSTANTIALLY when thousands of people report such things and even bear such signs as the guy that looks like scar face, then it becomes VERY probable and VERY plausible (January 16, 2016 at 6:49 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: PS - A trained physicist would have more than a third grader's grasp on basic grammar and spelling. my engineering professor said once "we do not care about punctuation and grammar we are not linguists we are engineers" and its true, because in the end you completely understand what i said there is NOTHING ambiguous about what i am saying, nobody is questioning me on that science is like this "if there is footsteps there must have been a person" its deductive and inductive , but we didn't observe a person, and the footsteps couldn't have made themselves, so hence we believe in it |
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