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Why the USA is a disgrace
RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
Nose job.

I also have a deviated septum so the surgery will help me breath as well as just making it look better.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 7, 2016 at 1:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Any way you look at it, you still can't remove the peoples' essential roles in governing their own nations. If they can't elect the people best suited for the job of representing them, that's on them. If they can't make a democracy work, that's on them as well. To blame certain individuals in positions of power for anything is either disingenuous or misguided.

Let me put this as simply as I can. If the majority of Americans are not pleased with the way things are going, they should get off their asses and do something about it. There's not much more to it than that.

Do you live in such a country where the government is similar to the US? If the answer is no, then you could not possibly understand how things are in this country. Until you can say that you have had first hand experience in dealing with politicians who lie just to get elected, then you are absolutely ignorant of what it is that happens here in this country.

I DO vote. That doesn't mean that the person I voted for is going to get elected. So if the opponent gets elected, none of the changes my candidate wanted, will happen. None of the things that should take place, will, so your argument is crap.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
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Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 7, 2016 at 10:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nose job.

I also have a deviated septum so the surgery will help me breath as well as just making it look better.

Post a close up of your nose. I want to see what the problem is.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 7, 2016 at 11:46 pm)KUSA Wrote:
(February 7, 2016 at 10:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nose job.

I also have a deviated septum so the surgery will help me breath as well as just making it look better.

Post a close up of your nose. I want to see what the problem is.

Here's a side shot. It looks fine from the front. I broke it when I was little.  Undecided

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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Why the USA is a disgrace
Looks fine from the side. What are going to do to it?
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(February 7, 2016 at 11:40 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:
(February 7, 2016 at 1:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Any way you look at it, you still can't remove the peoples' essential roles in governing their own nations. If they can't elect the people best suited for the job of representing them, that's on them. If they can't make a democracy work, that's on them as well. To blame certain individuals in positions of power for anything is either disingenuous or misguided.

Let me put this as simply as I can. If the majority of Americans are not pleased with the way things are going, they should get off their asses and do something about it. There's not much more to it than that.

Do you live in such a country where the government is similar to the US? If the answer is no, then you could not possibly understand how things are in this country. Until you can say that you have had first hand experience in dealing with politicians who lie just to get elected, then you are absolutely ignorant of what it is that happens here in this country.

I DO vote. That doesn't mean that the person I voted for is going to get elected. So if the opponent gets elected, none of the changes my candidate wanted, will happen. None of the things that should take place, will, so your argument is crap.

You didn't address my argument in any way, so I'm not going to play into your hands here. First address my actual argument, and then we can talk.
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 7, 2016 at 10:53 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nose job.

I also have a deviated septum so the surgery will help me breath as well as just making it look better.

Well, I can’t really see your nose, but your whole face taken as one impression, is lovely.

Me, I have perhaps more nose than is actually necessary for the purpose of respiration, but when I was one and twenty, a guy told me I have a sexy nose. That changed my life. I was born again.

Good luck improving perfection.Smile
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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(February 7, 2016 at 11:40 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:
(February 7, 2016 at 1:58 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Any way you look at it, you still can't remove the peoples' essential roles in governing their own nations. If they can't elect the people best suited for the job of representing them, that's on them. If they can't make a democracy work, that's on them as well. To blame certain individuals in positions of power for anything is either disingenuous or misguided.

Let me put this as simply as I can. If the majority of Americans are not pleased with the way things are going, they should get off their asses and do something about it. There's not much more to it than that.

Do you live in such a country where the government is similar to the US? If the answer is no, then you could not possibly understand how things are in this country. Until you can say that you have had first hand experience in dealing with politicians who lie just to get elected, then you are absolutely ignorant of what it is that happens here in this country.

I DO vote. That doesn't mean that the person I voted for is going to get elected. So if the opponent gets elected, none of the changes my candidate wanted, will happen. None of the things that should take place, will, so your argument is crap.
He sounds so much like a Christian, "Don't blame god. You're totally responsible for things over which you have little control and less knowledge."
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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We have our own Jennifer Grey. [Image: PDT_hb.gif]
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RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
(February 8, 2016 at 9:03 am)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(February 7, 2016 at 11:40 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: Do you live in such a country where the government is similar to the US? If the answer is no, then you could not possibly understand how things are in this country. Until you can say that you have had first hand experience in dealing with politicians who lie just to get elected, then you are absolutely ignorant of what it is that happens here in this country.

I DO vote. That doesn't mean that the person I voted for is going to get elected. So if the opponent gets elected, none of the changes my candidate wanted, will happen. None of the things that should take place, will, so your argument is crap.
He sounds so much like a Christian, "Don't blame god. You're totally responsible for things over which you have little control and less knowledge."

You can either do something with the little control and knowledge you do have or whine about it. You'll never have much power or knowledge, unless you become a dictator, so get that out of your head.

All you can really do to make a change is help spread rational thinking so that your fellow citizens might make better decisions and so that you'll eventually live in a better society.
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