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(February 6, 2016 at 6:11 pm)Divinity Wrote: People that are against interracial marriage are racist. Seems pretty simple to me.
Christians think that Christians shouldn't marry non-Christians. That means inter-faith relationships are considered bad too. Then again, I can't see why anyone would want to marry a Christian like that unless they weren't just as fucked up themselves.
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Some people who are against interracial marriages are the literal product of one, and speak with 40+ years of experience. Maybe you should be little less quick to judge and not so hasty to assume that everyone not telling what you want to hear is a racist.
Maybe the whole point of this was to get a selfish person to stop thinking about themselves and start thinking about the two families they are leaving and the one they are about to create.
The kids will be race-less mongerals/mutts that while loved, will not truly fit in anywhere because they do not belong to any one race or culture. They will be constantly reminded just by looking at their family let alone friends or school that they are outsiders, unless again they are one side dominate their appearance.
Now couple all of what I said with a difference in theological world view, and you won't last a year with all of those differences in tact. One of you has to give up who they are and what makes them unique and be assimilated by the other or you have to thrive on fights. Other wise you will be called the racist when someone asks you what you think.
(February 6, 2016 at 4:56 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Drich at it again... lol.
Yeah, getting "you people" to think outside the box you want to live in is quite a task
STILL waiting for you to explain how you ask me the whole "Who are you to tell Jews the correct way to interpret their laws?" and meanwhile you go telling them how to interpret their prophecies.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
(February 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: STILL waiting for you to explain how you ask me the whole "Who are you to tell Jews the correct way to interpret their laws?" and meanwhile you go telling them how to interpret their prophecies.
Two things, one your waiting in the wrong thread.
Two Laws and prophecies, have nothing to do with each other, this is just a sad red herring attempt to try and shift attention away from your failed interpretation of Jewish law and stubborn refusal to accept what they have said deu 23 to mean.
Isn't your embarrassment enough in my thread? why would you want me to embarrass you is other threads as well?
(February 6, 2016 at 6:11 pm)Divinity Wrote: People that are against interracial marriage are racist. Seems pretty simple to me.
Christians think that Christians shouldn't marry non-Christians. That means inter-faith relationships are considered bad too. Then again, I can't see why anyone would want to marry a Christian like that unless they weren't just as fucked up themselves.
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Some people who are against interracial marriages are the literal product of one, and speak with 40+ years of experience. Maybe you should be little less quick to judge and not so hasty to assume that everyone not telling what you want to hear is a racist.
Maybe the whole point of this was to get a selfish person to stop thinking about themselves and start thinking about the two families they are leaving and the one they are about to create.
The kids will be race-less mongerals/mutts that while loved, will not truly fit in anywhere because they do not belong to any one race or culture. They will be constantly reminded just by looking at their family let alone friends or school that they are outsiders, unless again they are one side dominate their appearance.
Now couple all of what I said with a difference in theological world view, and you won't last a year with all of those differences in tact. One of you has to give up who they are and what makes them unique and be assimilated by the other or you have to thrive on fights. Other wise you will be called the racist when someone asks you what you think.
You're entitled to your opinion, though you should keep in mind that not every bi or multiracial individual experiences the level of confusion and angst you did as a child; particularly if they are products of interracial parents who come from the background/culture.
(February 7, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: STILL waiting for you to explain how you ask me the whole "Who are you to tell Jews the correct way to interpret their laws?" and meanwhile you go telling them how to interpret their prophecies.
Two things, one your waiting in the wrong thread.
Two Laws and prophecies, have nothing to do with each other, this is just a sad red herring attempt to try and shift attention away from your failed interpretation of Jewish law and stubborn refusal to accept what they have said deu 23 to mean.
Isn't your embarrassment enough in my thread? why would you want me to embarrass you is other threads as well?
So to clarify, you DO want to defer to a rabbi in the case of the law, but you DO NOT want to defer to a rabbi in the case of the messiah. Am I correct on this?
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
(February 7, 2016 at 11:30 am)Drich Wrote: -or-
Some people who are against interracial marriages are the literal product of one, and speak with 40+ years of experience. Maybe you should be little less quick to judge and not so hasty to assume that everyone not telling what you want to hear is a racist.
Maybe the whole point of this was to get a selfish person to stop thinking about themselves and start thinking about the two families they are leaving and the one they are about to create.
The kids will be race-less mongerals/mutts that while loved, will not truly fit in anywhere because they do not belong to any one race or culture. They will be constantly reminded just by looking at their family let alone friends or school that they are outsiders, unless again they are one side dominate their appearance.
Now couple all of what I said with a difference in theological world view, and you won't last a year with all of those differences in tact. One of you has to give up who they are and what makes them unique and be assimilated by the other or you have to thrive on fights. Other wise you will be called the racist when someone asks you what you think.
You're entitled to your opinion, though you should keep in mind that not every bi or multiracial individual experiences the level of confusion and angst you did as a child; particularly if they are products of interracial parents who come from the background/culture.
I haven't officially studied bi-racial people, but I do tend to seek them out and talk with them if and when time allows. (At parties social gatherings whatever) I think most I have spoken to all say they felt loved, but again really didn't belong to one culture or race or the other. (unless they really looked like one race or the other, or were just out and out the oblivious to everything type.)
Which for the most part we grow out of it effecting our lives, but at the same time across the board (again unless they look like one race or the other) we all share a brutal childhood. Especially if we went to public school, and did not look like one race or the other.
While for the most part the families involved did not shun the kids most of us know we did not get the same treatment as our 'cousins' did.
This is alot to put on a kid if they are not given the tools to deal and cope. It's one thing to be call a racial name if you are all Black or Japanese, because you can go back to a group of people who all share and absorb your pain/experience, your mother is like you your father, your cousins, your friends are all like you and you are and belong to a people.. Their is Heritage, their is tradition.. it's another when you are the only one of your kind, your mom is different, your dad is different and everyone is different.
Again this is asking alot for a kid to figure out for him or her self.. Just because mommy and daddy wanted to be different.
I haven't officially studied bi-racial people, but I do tend to seek them out and talk with them if and when time allows. (At parties social gatherings whatever) I think most I have spoken to all say they felt loved, but again really didn't belong to one culture or race or the other. (unless they really looked like one race or the other, or were just out and out the oblivious to everything type.)
Which for the most part we grow out of it effecting our lives, but at the same time across the board (again unless they look like one race or the other) we all share a brutal childhood. Especially if we went to public school, and did not look like one race or the other.
While for the most part the families involved did not shun the kids most of us know we did not get the same treatment as our 'cousins' did.
This is alot to put on a kid if they are not given the tools to deal and cope. It's one thing to be call a racial name if you are all Black or Japanese, because you can go back to a group of people who all share and absorb your pain/experience, your mother is like you your father, your cousins, your friends are all like you and you are and belong to a people.. Their is Heritage, their is tradition.. it's another when you are the only one of your kind, your mom is different, your dad is different and everyone is different.
Again this is asking alot for a kid to figure out for him or her self.. Just because mommy and daddy wanted to be different.
I can certainly understand how having parents with extremely different traditions and views of the world overall, could cause a child to feel conflicted/ confused at the prospect of having to 'choose sides'. Especially if the parents can't be bothered to talk to their children, or come to a basic consensus on how raise them.
I don't feel that parents from what could essentially be considered the same background/culture, who also happen to be of different races are necessarily presenting their children with the same dilemma. It's unfair to assume that these people are selfish and just want to be different, or assume that their offspring feel pressured to somehow pick a side; especially in this current day and age. Being mixed race and/or appearing racially ambiguous isn't all that unusual or uncommon it used to be. It's not necessarily the isolating experience, you found it to be x amount of years ago.
Not certain why you feel that it's crucial for people to to share the same physical characteristics in order to relate one another. Being of the same race is ONEof countless commonalities and shared experiences that allow people to relate to each other on some level.
(February 8, 2016 at 3:22 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Idk. It seems God placed the different races on different continents.
He put the white people in Europe (except for Italy I guess)
He put the orientals in Asia.
He put the blacks in Africa.
He put the jabbering aborigines and native americans in Australia and the Americas respectivley.
Wouldnt it stand to reason he would only want the races to copulte with eachother since that was his plan?
Thought experiment time.
It's 1800 and missionaries go to proclaim the gospel to natives in South America. They get shipwrecked and are stuck there permanently. Is it then immoral for them to intermarry? After all, it would seem to contradict God's plan, and that is the one thing that is immoral. Right?
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.