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Lucifer on FOX
#31
RE: Lucifer on FOX
(February 16, 2016 at 1:34 pm)Cecelia Wrote:
(February 16, 2016 at 10:09 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Huh

Lucifer asked the main character if she was an atheist.  She said "No, I believe in good and evil, I just don't believe in Eternal Damnation."

I mean if she had said "No, I believe in god, just not Eternal Damnation" that'd be fine.  She'd be a Deist.  Or at least if the Devil said "Oh, a Deist.  How disappointing" or something.

Oh, ok. That kind of makes me want to sit through it to watch - mainly because I don't have anything to watch at the moment. But seriously, this show is really, really bad in some instances. It's ridiculous how bad it is, and I mean that at an obviously technical level, not just my personal opinion of it.

Like, for instance, they can't show the effect of the angel flying away. I feel like watching some very old low-budget shitty movie when they hide that shot. The acting just makes me cringe sometimes, it's all so unoriginal and strained. I could go on...
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#32
RE: Lucifer on FOX
(February 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:
(February 16, 2016 at 1:34 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Lucifer asked the main character if she was an atheist.  She said "No, I believe in good and evil, I just don't believe in Eternal Damnation."

I mean if she had said "No, I believe in god, just not Eternal Damnation" that'd be fine.  She'd be a Deist.  Or at least if the Devil said "Oh, a Deist.  How disappointing" or something.

Oh, ok. That kind of makes me want to sit through it to watch - mainly because I don't have anything to watch at the moment. But seriously, this show is really, really bad in some instances. It's ridiculous how bad it is, and I mean that at an obviously technical level, not just my personal opinion of it.

Like, for instance, they can't show the effect of the angel flying away. I feel like watching some very old low-budget shitty movie when they hide that shot. The acting just makes me cringe sometimes, it's all so unoriginal and strained. I could go on...
Can you watch a tv show without sitting there and picking it apart and enjoying it for what it is?

Holy fuck. Obviously it's not great. Hell, the entire premise is flawed, and if the devil actually were to come down, the power "restrictions" displayed with lucifer on the show would be laughable. The girl is a terrible skeptic, she doesn't draw conclusions AT ALL and is completely dumbfounded that someone who's multiple times displayed supernatural powers, could actually be who he says he is. She looks online for answers, and doesn't even remotely look for the correct thing that could potentially explain what's occurring.

Yet, I have decided to ignore all that, because there's no way you will ever enjoy anything with that attitude.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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#33
RE: Lucifer on FOX
(February 15, 2016 at 10:46 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Ugh.  "I'm not an atheist.  I believe in good and evil."  I mean c'mon.
I didn't realize you were referring to the most recent episode(which I hadn't watched at the time).

It's a flawed statement. However, was it really a statement? I don't think they were trying to prove, or state anything in particular other than just make conversation. It's incorrect, but something to get upset or stop watching the show for? I don't think so.

It's not massively incorrect either, and could easily be twisted to become correct. If we assume she is talking about a universal good and evil, we know there is not a universal morality, so in that instance she is in fact correct, because a universal morality would require a god to put in place.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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#34
RE: Lucifer on FOX
(February 17, 2016 at 1:12 am)Heat Wrote: I didn't realize you were referring to the most recent episode(which I hadn't watched at the time).

It's a flawed statement. However, was it really a statement? I don't think they were trying to prove, or state anything in particular other than just make conversation. It's incorrect, but something to get upset or stop watching the show for? I don't think so.

I never said I was going to quit watching the show over it, it just irritated me.
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#35
RE: Lucifer on FOX
Incredible shows i have downloaded all the 7 episodes and looking them repeatedly...
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#36
RE: Lucifer on FOX
The show is good, love the guy playing Lucifer.

That said, the comic it's based on is much, much, better. If you like the show I suggest you check it out.
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#37
RE: Lucifer on FOX
(March 12, 2016 at 3:41 am)Bob Kelso Wrote: The show is good, love the guy playing Lucifer.

That said, the comic it's based on is much, much, better. If you like the show I suggest you check it out.
I think it's a really good show on it's own, but the people who thought it would have ties to the book or wanted it to resemble the book more are very disappointed.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?

Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours. 
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom

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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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