So we're saying that the poison of Islam is so widespread, this is the only way to guarantee it stops?

Maybe Nostradamus was right after all when he said the next war will be a holy war.

(March 2, 2016 at 4:19 pm)ignoramus Wrote: So we're saying that the poison of Islam is so widespread, this is the only way to guarantee it stops?

Maybe Nostradamus was right after all when he said the next war will be a holy war.

Just about all wars have been "holy" or had religious motivations.

If not the war itself, then many of its atrocities.

(March 2, 2016 at 9:36 am)abaris Wrote:

(March 1, 2016 at 2:03 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Someone should give Islam a heads up; Russia doesn't fuck around.

And you know that because....?

Are you implying, other countries would react differently if something like that was happening? And you know she really was muslim because?

If you've got some additional sources, please, do post the links. What I wrote above is all I got from browsing the news networks. So please, do share.

How do I know Russia doesn't fuck around? Its human rights record. They'll be less inclined to bother throwing a PR spin on clamping electrodes to peoples bollocks. Guantanamo wouldn't be something they would find controversial.

Is it possible that woman, dressed as she is and screaming about being a suicide bomber, is entirely outside of that religion?
Sure. Why not.
Is it likely? 
No. No it isn't. When its found that shes not part of that religion I'll retract the statement but until then its a reasonable assumption to make.

(March 2, 2016 at 12:54 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:I'd call that a foolproof way of making sure they never kill anyone.

And if you blow up the planet, no one will ever murder anyone again. Just that one last mass murder/genocide to wrap thing up.  

Hey, if you're gonna go with a scorched-earth policy, you may as well do it right!

(March 2, 2016 at 6:51 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Is it possible that woman, dressed as she is and screaming about being a suicide bomber, is entirely outside of that religion?

Is reported to have screamed that. By RT and no other network.

Others reported her to have been a nanny, as I already said. Having killed one of the children in her care. Last they reported was her having been arrested. Nothing since.

Given how much news coverage even the slightest islamistic incidence gets these days, the ensuing silence is a story in itself. But go on, believe in RT coverage. It's almost as impartial and trustworthy as Fox News or Al Jazeera.

(March 2, 2016 at 8:27 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 2, 2016 at 6:51 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Is it possible that woman, dressed as she is and screaming about being a suicide bomber, is entirely outside of that religion?

Is reported to have screamed that. By RT and no other network.

Others reported her to have been a nanny, as I already said. Having killed one of the children in her care. Last they reported was her having been arrested. Nothing since.

Given how much news coverage even the slightest islamistic incidence gets these days, the ensuing silence is a story in itself. But go on, believe in RT coverage. It's almost as impartial and trustworthy as Fox News or Al Jazeera.

So shes just a crazy nanny claiming to be a suicide bomber terrorist dressed in appropriate garb for a middle eastern woman after randomly murdering a child in her care? Is that what you're saying?
Because its either that, the network brazenly mistranslated her in the video and expected noone to be able to get the real translation or shes actually motivated by an extremist agenda. Given the circumstances I don't think its unreasonable to assume shes motivated by the religion most commonly associated with those things until evidence comes to light that isn't the case.

OK, update - from real new networks.

Moscow investigators consider the perp to be a schizophreniac.

Quote:Gulchekhra Bobokulova, a 38-year-old mother of three, replied "yes" when asked if she accepted her guilt.

Russian officials have said Bobokulova was suffering from mental health problems.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35705924

In other sources it's reported that she was sectioned in 2002.

Quote:However no links to Islamist group have since emerged. Officials have said she is mentally unstable, with reports suggesting the woman suffers from schizophrenia, a condition that is said to have deteriorated after her marriage broke down.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/moscow-killer-n...ng-1547053

(March 3, 2016 at 8:47 am)abaris Wrote: OK, update - from real new networks.

Moscow investigators consider the perp to be a schizophreniac.

Quote:Gulchekhra Bobokulova, a 38-year-old mother of three, replied "yes" when asked if she accepted her guilt.

Russian officials have said Bobokulova was suffering from mental health problems.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35705924

In other sources it's reported that she was sectioned in 2002.

Quote:However no links to Islamist group have since emerged. Officials have said she is mentally unstable, with reports suggesting the woman suffers from schizophrenia, a condition that is said to have deteriorated after her marriage broke down.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/moscow-killer-n...ng-1547053

No surprise that she's mentally ill. There's also little to debate on religious ideas inspiring the horrific things which sociopaths and sick people do. But I believe there are two points of argument here which that doesn't address:

1. A certain type of barbarism was done by this woman which is has been unthinkable in non-Muslim cultures since the 17th Century, and is still practiced officially by legitimate Islamic governments, not just ISIS. Public beheadings are still done in Saudi Arabia, or they have been until very recently. Other unthinkable barbarities are practiced for certain by Islamic governments. This continues for no better reason than prevailing Islamic attitudes toward human life, regardless of the individual opinions of some Muslims.
   This woman was certainly inspired by the above.
2. Another recurring theme which Islam deserves the credit for is that nobody, not even little children are innocent. Islam and human empathy aren't famously compatible.
   
   
   
   
   
   

(March 2, 2016 at 9:19 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:

(March 1, 2016 at 2:03 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Someone should give Islam a heads up; Russia doesn't fuck around.

Only when its in a position to bully those weaker or more pussilamious than itself. When it comes up against a country or group willing and able to duke it out Putin tucks his tail and runs like the coward he is. Hence why they won't touch ISIS.

They've been bombing ISIS for a long time. You're just an apologist for terrorists.

(March 3, 2016 at 8:47 am)abaris Wrote: OK, update - from real new networks.

Moscow investigators consider the perp to be a schizophreniac.

Quote:Gulchekhra Bobokulova, a 38-year-old mother of three, replied "yes" when asked if she accepted her guilt.

Russian officials have said Bobokulova was suffering from mental health problems.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35705924

In other sources it's reported that she was sectioned in 2002.

Quote:However no links to Islamist group have since emerged. Officials have said she is mentally unstable, with reports suggesting the woman suffers from schizophrenia, a condition that is said to have deteriorated after her marriage broke down.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/moscow-killer-n...ng-1547053

"Real networks."

Fucking lol