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My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:18 am
(March 12, 2016 at 8:54 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 12, 2016 at 8:44 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Okay so...if there exists objective morals, then there exists a god.
If there exists a god, then there exists objective morals.
I don't see how this is supposed to demonstrate that either God or objective morals actually exist...*scratches head*
It may or may not depending on your taste. As I've explained before in the past, the very knowledge that morality if objective (I use this differently the definition used by philosophers) is linked to God, shows we know a vital characteristic of it. Being certain in this knowledge, shows we know to be true due to the nature of (objective) morality and it's link to God. This should make us believe in both, because, we know something of certain about both that it is not really possible without some sort of link and connection to both of these as a reality.
It doesn't make sense that it's figment of our imagination, and that this thing we imagine has a necessary characteristic that it must be connected to an eternal absolute moral being.
Well, no, respectfully. If you are making a claim, you need to be able to soundly demonstrate it, regardless of what my, or anyone else's "tastes" are...
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:21 am
(March 12, 2016 at 9:18 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: (March 12, 2016 at 8:54 am)MysticKnight Wrote: It may or may not depending on your taste. As I've explained before in the past, the very knowledge that morality if objective (I use this differently the definition used by philosophers) is linked to God, shows we know a vital characteristic of it. Being certain in this knowledge, shows we know to be true due to the nature of (objective) morality and it's link to God. This should make us believe in both, because, we know something of certain about both that it is not really possible without some sort of link and connection to both of these as a reality.
It doesn't make sense that it's figment of our imagination, and that this thing we imagine has a necessary characteristic that it must be connected to an eternal absolute moral being.
Well, no, respectfully. If you are making a claim, you need to be able to soundly demonstrate it, regardless of what my, or anyone else's "tastes" are...
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:21 am
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You can't seem to tell us what practical difference this makes to anything MK.
I can only conclude that it makes no difference.
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:23 am
This might explain God's lack of action
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:25 am
To be fair, no one can tell me what practical difference it makes.
It seems like a lot of waffle over nothing.
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:32 am
(March 12, 2016 at 9:25 am)robvalue Wrote: To be fair, no one can tell me what practical difference it makes.
Are you sure no one has told you?
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My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:33 am
I believe he is more concerned with insisting it be true than he is with it making a difference.
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:35 am
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(March 12, 2016 at 9:32 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 12, 2016 at 9:25 am)robvalue Wrote: To be fair, no one can tell me what practical difference it makes.
Are you sure no one has told you?
Yup. Or if they have, I had no idea what they were talking about. There's a lot of weird words people throw around.
Philosophy is interesting and all, but at the end of the day I live in reality. If it doesn't make any difference, then I will ignore it, for all practical purposes.
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 9:43 am
(March 11, 2016 at 10:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: How long will you listen to the noise of unreasonable doubt keeping you away from hearing the thundering sword in your soul?
*euphemism*
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RE: My views on objective morality
March 12, 2016 at 10:30 am
(March 11, 2016 at 9:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (March 11, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Your parents are doing this because they ultimately see it as being in your best interest, and they, being your parents, have both the liberty and the duty to decide for you in those cases. Not so with God. I am not God's child and his interests are not my own.
He's presenting the Christian position though. The Christian position is that God created us, is our Father, and is looking out for our best interest.
The both of you can present it that way all you want, but that won't make it true.
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