(March 14, 2016 at 10:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The illusion of a "Godless" journey through life is so fragile in its core, that is; cracks can appear so easily with the slightest thought or behavior analysis.
Every bit of human body, the word "human" itself, is nothing more but a group of functions existing to serve: thus we, are nothing but the same biological organism that is surviving -ironically- via self inflicted services, which are given to the body since birth.
We cannot even comprehend the idea of independence: everything to us -by default- is defined with the same image -that is us-: a client being served; a cause and effect.
If worship is -in its core- a service, then how is an atheist considered to be a "Godless" human being?
Isn't it more accurate to describe the person's God, as him/herself, his/her nation, his/her government?
If somebody spent all of their lives "worshiping" themselves and claiming to be "atheists", wouldn't that tell us that there are no true atheists?
Consider whatever holy, and spend them years building it up obsessively; and here you go: that's your God.
Humans are made to worship. Made to serve.
Atheism might be defined more accurately with it being the lack of belief in a certain "God(s)", but not all Gods. Every person has a God after all. Nobody is Godless.
What's so sad is, that from the "atheists" of this board, you won't get any honest replys. [I'm sorry my computer won't let me use enter to skip a few lines. I'll make all of this one paragraph.] For an atheist, just to state the obvious, you can't do "insert exactly what you said here" because as you said, that would make you (supposedly) dishonest. Atheists, well, they wish they knew it, they always ask for it as you can obviously see by your post, but if they knew that they were actually irrationalizing by an irrational name, indeed, they would seek to turn on themselves, and the result would be catastrophic. So, quite naturally, we ask to understand the nature of something. Sadly, for atheists, this is an irrational value as they might themselves say, because they do not wish to truly understand their beliefs. It is true that atheists are not a category of believers, as they themselves should admit (and don't). If they were a category of believers, then atheism would be a valid, theistically justified belief. So, "call it what you will", but I am of the opinion that muslims, such as yourself, have what appears on the outset a very "justified" even self justified to be honest, belief. I have never seen the muslim religion for what it is. And I am an American Christian (an "insult").
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So like, your self justified beliefs, personally, go along very well with my Christian beliefs. I simply believe in personal privacy, and expression of upheld norms (aka religion). Would it in my opinion therefore, be acceptable to state muslim and Christian fundamentalists as "on the right track"? They are two of the primary forms of self expression in the way I describe them, and very beautiful in this type of opposition to atheism.
The only problem is, whenever a person states God as the problem, as in stating that their faith is already shaken, due to the form of presentation of their arguments as STIMBO stated on page one of this forum, or whatever it may be, the atheists, probably even at the very second, jump on any ones throat and present their argument as winning and superior. And how are we expected at that time a religious debate? The language of "religion" is the language of truth. God did apparently make it obvious when he made muslim and Christian religions similar, that we have a manner of execution far superior to irrationalism (aka atheism). But it would nevertheless be the case that we find these modes of personal self expression on our own, and also in due wait for an expression of our graciousness toward him. But what manner of faith, other than pain, can express the truth? Majority rule suffers self inflicted wounds, depression, anxiety, social discontentedness, and every "god gracious" atheist belief is just a further expression of these feelings. Similar to dirreah. So I've called them closet homosexuals in the past. This is very similar to their mode of expression, which is a sort of sticky and nastiness which classifies their mode of conversation quite well. Comment on this if you want, because in my opinion all we really need is a mode of expression opposite of atheism, in order to win over those in poor health. Have you noticed that even poor health is a debate topic of "atheists"? They scream "blind murder" and want to scream "bloody murder", whenever they see one in poor health who has no prayers from God. Which is another like dirreah and closet homosexual attack. [the enter key is giving me specific problems now. I can't click below me like I did earlier to reveal another line to skip spaces on.] Obviously however, every atheist charade is another irrational, stupidist, personalizing fact. Farts really stick out as one of these characteristics. Dogs smell their farts. Why? Did God curse them? No. That is a contradiction. Some say within farts hold orgasms of great joy. Farts are one of the most funniest things. Farts are a personal feeling of gratitude. As you can see, an atheists "farts would stink", is another criticism. And please take note: All of these characteristics (the motivation of atheists is just another example), are primordial of atheists, and can be generalized in many ways to make atheism "seem" valueless. Please take note, that these "personal" characteristics about atheism can in fact cause harm to atheists, not however that that's what you wanted/expected. How do atheists react to these kinds of comments? What can we do to raise the level of rational conversation and remove the burden of those in poor or ill health? Well, you yourself have made a few primarys. But what is it that makes atheists desire sincere obviousness? (Since their mode of conversation has been shown as opposite to the truth and unjustified and unclear and other contradictoriness). As you have done, and in my mind as all muslims do: with sincere obviousness. Thanks for the post MrNoMorePropaganda!
