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(April 22, 2016 at 10:47 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: That was a metric shit-ton of utter nonsense. None of your replies, not one, came even close to being a cogent answer to the points I was making.
You are out of your fucking mind, dude, and apparently incapable of understanding what you read. No, you don't understand what evolution is, how it works, or even what your claims mean. Yes of course a human gives birth to a human. WHAT IN THE FUCK MADE YOU THINK THAT ANY SCIENTIST ANYWHERE ON EARTH HAS EVER MADE A CLAIM OTHER THAN THAT!?
How can you even fucking type that kind of thing, and think you're explaining something new to a person trained in science?
You are either the most unstable, batshit insane person I've ever had the displeasure of meeting online, or a troll.
Rocco.
All your scientific studies are like rat's excrement.
You have no idea how evolution works.
Energy and consciousness always go hand in hand.
They are like the two sides of the same sheet.
Where there is energy there is consciousness.
Energy can be in a latent stage.
That doesn't really matter.
Atheism main problem is due the fact that by not been able to see consciousness in matter or any other
element that compose the universe they think that matter and other elements like space, air, light and
water have no consciousness in them and therefore it is impossible to find a relationship between the universe and God.
This demented way or judging prevent the individual progress but that is your problem.
But let us come to your comment in which you sink in a sea of confusion.
You said............Yes of course a human gives birth to a human. WHAT IN THE FUCK MADE YOU THINK THAT ANY SCIENTIST ANYWHERE ON EARTH HAS EVER MADE A CLAIM OTHER THAN THAT!?...........
You didn't get it son.
My previous comment was to explain that your chemistry can not possibly start the evolution.
All this related to my first question.
I ask...........1) What trigger evolution to start in the first place?
And you reply............
.......1) Chemistry, the same thing that runs it, now. The current best hypothesis (there are several competing ideas for this one) is that comets containing the basic chemistry that would become life crashed down into our volcano-warmed oceans on the early earth, and seeded enough material near geothermal vents that the components which make up life were able to coalesce on a substrate (something like shale) into self-replicating molecules. From there, it was off to the races! This answer is unrelated to how evolution actually works, however, as we've explained to you numerous times.
Chemistry has absolutely nothing to do with consciousness that is why i said that .......a human gives birth to a human..........in order to say that chemistry can not give birth to consciousness which is the trigger for evolution.
Capish?
Are you currently employed?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
(April 23, 2016 at 9:36 am)Little Rik Wrote: Rocco.
All your scientific studies are like rat's excrement.
You have no idea how evolution works.
Energy and consciousness always go hand in hand.
They are like the two sides of the same sheet.
Where there is energy there is consciousness.
Energy can be in a latent stage.
That doesn't really matter.
Atheism main problem is due the fact that by not been able to see consciousness in matter or any other
element that compose the universe they think that matter and other elements like space, air, light and
water have no consciousness in them and therefore it is impossible to find a relationship between the universe and God.
This demented way or judging prevent the individual progress but that is your problem.
But let us come to your comment in which you sink in a sea of confusion.
You said............Yes of course a human gives birth to a human. WHAT IN THE FUCK MADE YOU THINK THAT ANY SCIENTIST ANYWHERE ON EARTH HAS EVER MADE A CLAIM OTHER THAN THAT!?...........
You didn't get it son.
My previous comment was to explain that your chemistry can not possibly start the evolution.
All this related to my first question.
I ask...........1) What trigger evolution to start in the first place?
And you reply............
.......1) Chemistry, the same thing that runs it, now. The current best hypothesis (there are several competing ideas for this one) is that comets containing the basic chemistry that would become life crashed down into our volcano-warmed oceans on the early earth, and seeded enough material near geothermal vents that the components which make up life were able to coalesce on a substrate (something like shale) into self-replicating molecules. From there, it was off to the races! This answer is unrelated to how evolution actually works, however, as we've explained to you numerous times.
Chemistry has absolutely nothing to do with consciousness that is why i said that .......a human gives birth to a human..........in order to say that chemistry can not give birth to consciousness which is the trigger for evolution.
Capish?
Are you currently employed?
Yes dear but what this has got to do with you posting the previous post?
April 23, 2016 at 9:53 am (This post was last modified: April 23, 2016 at 9:56 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
Edit to Add: "You silly scientists don't understand the thing you've dedicated your life to studying and understanding. All those years of college, journal-reading, lab and fieldwork were wasted because MAGIC!"
So at last we have come around entirely and answered the OP question... the main reason I'm an atheist. They all sound like Rik to me, in the end, in their various magical-thinker flavors.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
(April 23, 2016 at 9:48 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Are you currently employed?
Yes dear but what this has got to do with you posting the previous post?
I'm just curious how you make it through the day...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
(April 23, 2016 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: Yes dear but what this has got to do with you posting the previous post?
I'm just curious how you make it through the day...
Busy, busy and more busy.
I got the work, i got the family, i got the garden to look after, the wild birds to feed and a lot of yoga meditation.
What about you dear?
Oh , hang on, i forgot the tuition i give on the net to slow learning people.
Not you of course.
(April 23, 2016 at 9:53 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
Edit to Add: "You silly scientists don't understand the thing you've dedicated your life to studying and understanding. All those years of college, journal-reading, lab and fieldwork were wasted because MAGIC!"
So at last we have come around entirely and answered the OP question... the main reason I'm an atheist. They all sound like Rik to me, in the end, in their various magical-thinker flavors.
Rocco.
It is bizarre but some people waste all their lives chasing ghosts.
They think that they are on the right track but they look at only one side of the issue.
A sheet has got two sides but the so called experts only look at one side.
In this way they get nowhere.
But these people are stubborn.
They never give up until their head give up.
They thought that they could brake the wall with their head.
Quote:cares about every action. They also believe sky-daddy wants every human to believe
It's declared officially in the Quran:
Sura 25 ( 77 ) Say, "What would my Lord care for you if not for your supplication?" For you [disbelievers] have denied, so your denial is going to be adherent.
God doesn't care about us, really. We are his creations though, that's he does: creates; the wonder of heaven and earth that is..
We believe for our sake..
Sura 31 ( 12 ) And We had certainly given Luqman wisdom [and said], "Be grateful to Allah." And whoever is grateful is grateful for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever denies [His favor] - then indeed, Allah is Free of need and Praiseworthy.
We believe so we live..
Sura 8 ( 24 ) O you who have believed, respond to Allah and to the Messenger when he calls you to that which gives you life. And know that Allah intervenes between a man and his heart and that to Him you will be gathered.
In him..so so great..
But it's that mentality that turned God into an old man with a cane, who takes the form of humans and get crucified for fun, loves humans as if he was a human..well..
No, he is indeed:
Sura 112 ( 1 ) Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,
( 2 ) Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
( 3 ) He neither begets nor is born, ( 4 ) Nor is there to Him any equivalent.
The first he is, also the last. With him it begins; with him it ends. But he never ends.
Rocket is much more intelligent and educated than you, Rik, just like me and most everyone else here.
Also, did I read that right? Your wife lets you spout this shit on the internet all day?
Bitch needs to get her house in order. Dogs runnin wild and shit.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
(April 23, 2016 at 10:53 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:
Rocket is much more intelligent and educated than you, Rik, just like me and most everyone else here.
Also, did I read that right? Your wife lets you spout this shit on the internet all day?
Bitch needs to get her house in order. Dogs runnin wild and shit.
Pinky.
I understand perfectly.
Sat. night and the bong is on again.
Look after your health son.
You only got one brain even if that doesn't work much.
All your scientific studies are like rat's excrement.
You have no idea how evolution works.
Energy and consciousness always go hand in hand.
They are like the two sides of the same sheet.
Where there is energy there is consciousness.
Energy can be in a latent stage.
That doesn't really matter.
Atheism main problem is due the fact that by not been able to see consciousness in matter or any other
element that compose the universe they think that matter and other elements like space, air, light and
water have no consciousness in them and therefore it is impossible to find a relationship between the universe and God.
This demented way or judging prevent the individual progress but that is your problem.
But let us come to your comment in which you sink in a sea of confusion.
You said............Yes of course a human gives birth to a human. WHAT IN THE FUCK MADE YOU THINK THAT ANY SCIENTIST ANYWHERE ON EARTH HAS EVER MADE A CLAIM OTHER THAN THAT!?...........
You didn't get it son.
My previous comment was to explain that your chemistry can not possibly start the evolution.
All this related to my first question.
I ask...........1) What trigger evolution to start in the first place?
And you reply............
.......1) Chemistry, the same thing that runs it, now. The current best hypothesis (there are several competing ideas for this one) is that comets containing the basic chemistry that would become life crashed down into our volcano-warmed oceans on the early earth, and seeded enough material near geothermal vents that the components which make up life were able to coalesce on a substrate (something like shale) into self-replicating molecules. From there, it was off to the races! This answer is unrelated to how evolution actually works, however, as we've explained to you numerous times.
Chemistry has absolutely nothing to do with consciousness that is why i said that .......a human gives birth to a human..........in order to say that chemistry can not give birth to consciousness which is the trigger for evolution.
Capish?
Are you currently employed?
This moron keeps throwing emoticon-laced idiotic crackpot pseudo-science drivel back at REAL scientists, who have tried to get some REAL concepts through his drug addled gray-matter, and then can't even spell his childish playground final taunt correctly. (Italian. It's spelled "capisce".) Seriously folks, how much more of this crap are we going to put up with? Ban this brain-dead egotistical troll and his childish insults, already!
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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but what this has got to do with you posting the previous post? 
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