(April 26, 2016 at 10:05 pm)snowtracks Wrote:

(April 25, 2016 at 11:30 pm)dyresand Wrote: The irony of it all is only less than 1% of the earths population gets into heaven while everyone else is in hell in some religion we never heard of.

Actually, it's a large minority. To know those kinds of statistics, it handy to know eschatology - https://www.wordnik.com/words/eschatology
Creation is always linked to redemption. The reason that some don't take advantage of it is suppression of the truth. Why would anyone do that? To resist God's authority. Why would they want to do that? To maintain sinful beliefs and actions ... and they may not aware of it since 'the human heart is desperately wicked, who can know it' ?

"Christian eschatology is a major branch of study within Christian theology. Eschatology, from two Greek words meaning "last" (ἔσχατος) and "study" (-λογία), is the study of 'end things', whether the end of an individual life, the end of the age, the end of the world and the nature of the Kingdom of God."

In other words, the study of "end times" from a book of fables about a god that doesn't exist.  If you want us to believe in your fables and your imaginary friend, you have to do more than preach and yammer on and quote verses from that hideous evil collection of silly old fables called the wholly babble.  You have to do more than stick your nose in the air and tell people that you know the "truth" and that humans are desperately wicked.  (yawn)  Prove it. Facts, not fairy tales and threats.

(April 27, 2016 at 2:40 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: "Christian eschatology is a major branch of study within Christian theology. Eschatology, from two Greek words meaning "last" (ἔσχατος) and "study" (-λογία), is the study of 'end things', whether the end of an individual life, the end of the age, the end of the world and the nature of the Kingdom of God."

I've never considered it mere coincidence that "eschatological" and "scatological" are so similar.

(April 27, 2016 at 2:40 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(April 26, 2016 at 10:05 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Actually, it's a large minority. To know those kinds of statistics, it handy to know eschatology - https://www.wordnik.com/words/eschatology
Creation is always linked to redemption. The reason that some don't take advantage of it is suppression of the truth. Why would anyone do that? To resist God's authority. Why would they want to do that? To maintain sinful beliefs and actions ... and they may not aware of it since 'the human heart is desperately wicked, who can know it' ?

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"Christian eschatology is a major branch of study within Christian theology. Eschatology, from two Greek words meaning "last" (ἔσχατος) and "study" (-λογία), is the study of 'end things', whether the end of an individual life, the end of the age, the end of the world and the nature of the Kingdom of God."

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In other words, the study of "end times" from a book of fables about a god that doesn't exist.  If you want us to believe in your fables and your imaginary friend, you have to do more than preach and yammer on and quote verses from that hideous evil collection of silly old fables called the wholly babble.  You have to do more than stick your nose in the air and tell people that you know the "truth" and that humans are desperately wicked.  (yawn)  Prove it. Facts, not fairy tales and threats.

This one seems angry about something.

Hell would be a much more pleasant place than heaven.

(May 7, 2016 at 12:06 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(April 27, 2016 at 2:40 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

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"Christian eschatology is a major branch of study within Christian theology. Eschatology, from two Greek words meaning "last" (ἔσχατος) and "study" (-λογία), is the study of 'end things', whether the end of an individual life, the end of the age, the end of the world and the nature of the Kingdom of God."

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In other words, the study of "end times" from a book of fables about a god that doesn't exist.  If you want us to believe in your fables and your imaginary friend, you have to do more than preach and yammer on and quote verses from that hideous evil collection of silly old fables called the wholly babble.  You have to do more than stick your nose in the air and tell people that you know the "truth" and that humans are desperately wicked.  (yawn)  Prove it. Facts, not fairy tales and threats.

This one seems angry about something.

Well sure. After a few hundred people telling me that I'm stupid and deluded and disordered and going to burn forever for not believing their outrageous fairy tales, and not believing in their imaginary friend, a person gets a little testy. Xtians aren't humble - they are proud to their bones that they have the RIGHT sky-daddy, and that THEY are going to get to cheer and jeer from THEIR heaven while watching all the stupid evil people burn.  They tell the most outrageous unbelievable tales, and act superior when you don't have enough "faith" to buy into their bullshit.  And they come to internet forums like this one, to tell the sinners that we need to listen to THEM.
   It doesn't take too long before you ask for proof of the ridiculous tales, and they point to the book they got them from.  And they seem incapable of understanding that we could do that with a Mother Goose book and have just as much credibility.  

Faith is pretending to know things that you don't know.   

I love that cartoon.

One of the very best.

(April 25, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(April 24, 2016 at 7:00 pm)snowtracks Wrote: It's the only place known that has information; therefore, it's the center of the universe. No need to restate the big numbers stellar 'things' again.  Atheist are stuck on neanderthal grunt level thinking, like 'me see big rock, me throw big rock, big rock smashing'.

That really says a whole lot of nothing, snowtracks.  We've barely begun to explore space.  If other complex lifeforms exist, we may simply not have contacted each other given the vast distances involved and the sheer number of other stars.  Saying it's the only known place makes it a big non sequitur.  What we currently know has zip impact on any truth to the idea that the earth is the center of our universe.  It is the center of the known universe.  That and $6 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbuck's.

Nontheists persist in claiming that some hypothetical, unguided, mindless set of processes in the realm of the unknown or unknowable actually resulted in the origin of life. More 'Naturalism of the Gaps', more big, big universe stuff so there has to be something alive; no evidence but it just has to be; and think about all those meta-physical speculations of multiverses that  would negate the universe's fine-tuning parameters that we actually know exist. God's invisible qualities of eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, understood from what has been made, so there aren't any atheist. Why they say they are is that God places demands on  morality.

(October 8, 2015 at 12:07 am)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: I disagree with the asshole claim. God is actually very kind, considering how He became a human to die so that we wouldn't go to hell. Jesus went to hell for three days and three nights too. To me that sounds like a very good God.
and Satan is evil. He's the one who tempted us to sin in the first place and sewered everyone smh.

Apparently you have read a different bible than I. How is Satan evil? He freed Adam and Eve from their enslavement.

And god is kind? Dashing babies heads, floods, wars, etc.. Then there is poor Job that bought into god's bullshit and god fucked him over.

The only thing Satan did was piss off god.

(May 23, 2016 at 7:59 pm)snowtracks Wrote:

(April 25, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That really says a whole lot of nothing, snowtracks.  We've barely begun to explore space.  If other complex lifeforms exist, we may simply not have contacted each other given the vast distances involved and the sheer number of other stars.  Saying it's the only known place makes it a big non sequitur.  What we currently know has zip impact on any truth to the idea that the earth is the center of our universe.  It is the center of the known universe.  That and $6 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbuck's.

Nontheists persist in claiming that some hypothetical, unguided, mindless set of processes in the realm of the unknown or unknowable actually resulted in the origin of life. More 'Naturalism of the Gaps', more big, big universe stuff so there has to be something alive; no evidence but it just has to be; and think about all those meta-physical speculations of multiverses that  would negate the universe's fine-tuning parameters that we actually know exist. God's invisible qualities of eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen, understood from what has been made, so there aren't any atheist. Why they say they are is that God places demands on  morality.

Bollocks. Pure bollocks. God's invisible powers remain invisible, which is to say nonexistent.