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"Men are all pigs"
RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 10:06 pm)pool the great Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 9:53 pm)The_Empress Wrote: (snip)
Grow up.

(snip) Like seriously, sometimes you can be wrong,you aren't right every. Single. Time.

Yes, she is. 


Curious. How old are you, pool?
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 10:24 pm)Mamacita Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 10:06 pm)pool the great Wrote: (snip) Like seriously, sometimes you can be wrong,you aren't right every. Single. Time.

Yes, she is. 


Curious. How old are you, pool?

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RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 9:29 pm)pool the great Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 3:50 pm)Thena323 Wrote:


Well Thena, as far as our community goes, women choose to be housewives instead of pursuing careers. If what you are saying is true and husband regularly treat women as inferiors, like a dog, then wouldn't you think that the woman would be entirely displeased, look like shit with all the work her man makes her do, have regular fights at house and cops get called in etc?
I see these women daily, they look stunning, there is no stress in their face because" hubby will take care of it ", they don't look unhappy in the slightest , we don't have a single cop visit from domestic violence, and in my entire life time I've seen only 1 divorce case, which was my uncles.

Looking stunning is hardly an accurate indication of an individual's happiness, pool. If you weren't so shallow, you'd have absolutely no problem understanding that. 

It's just as ridiculous for you to conclude that an absence of police intervention for domestic violence in your community (how you could possibly be privy to such knowledge without being on the police force, I do not know) means that abuse does not or cannot occur. Economic dependence, strict gender roles, and economic stress of sole providers are well-known risk factors for domestic violence. Lack of earning/survival options is one of the primary reasons victims feel compelled to "go along to get along" and suffer in silence. 

Quote:You know, these observations don't lie, if your assertion that women were being oppressed and treated like shit were true then my observations would've been different. But these observations does match up with me asserting that they are treated as princesses, which they like, hence them lot leaving their husband.

What part of 'economic dependence' do you not understand, pool? 

Quote:I treat all my girlfriends like little princess baby's, then aren't breaking up with me for belittling, dehumanizing and treating them like dogs (as per what you're saying)... Maybe I really am treating them like gods and they like it.  Dig?  :')

And what if these "princess babies" are okay with being dehumanized and belittled? Does being able to demean or otherwise mistreat fellow humans beings means that you should?
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"Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 10:23 pm)pool the great Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 10:18 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: So there are no threats, force, or manipulation involved in sex?

You'll have to be more specific than that. What kind of threats you talking about? I don't understand what you mean by force either. Do you mean hardcore sex force or like rape force? Manipulation is muddy waters too. Smiling at someone so that their mood can change from sadness to happiness is also manipulation of emotion.

Like I said, be more specific, you're way too generalizing for me to gives li a good answer other than, "it depends on the situation".


Hmmm...I dunno...I feel like you know what I mean. If your girlfriend says, " I'm not in the mood." What do you do?
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
Not girlfriend. If your wife. And situation.

What if your wife has been watching tv all evening after a full day of spending your money shopping with her girlfriends. Now you're in bed and she says "nah" and rolls over with no reasoning besides from she just doesn't feel like it. What if this is the third night in a row and she's fine and healthy but she just doesn't want to have sex. What then?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 11:22 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 10:23 pm)pool the great Wrote: You'll have to be more specific than that. What kind of threats you talking about? I don't understand what you mean by force either. Do you mean hardcore sex force or like rape force?  Manipulation is muddy waters too. Smiling at someone so that their mood can change from sadness to happiness is also manipulation of emotion.

Like I said, be more specific, you're way too generalizing for me to gives li a good answer other than, "it depends on the situation".


Hmmm...I dunno...I feel like you know what I mean.  If your girlfriend says, " I'm not in the mood."  What do you do?

Then I don't do it, duh.
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 11:32 pm)Losty Wrote: Not girlfriend. If your wife. And situation.

What if your wife has been watching tv all evening after a full day of spending your money shopping with her girlfriends. Now you're in bed and she says "nah" and rolls over with no reasoning besides from she just doesn't feel like it. What if this is the third night in a row and she's fine and healthy but she just doesn't want to have sex. What then?

I'd feel I was unappreciated, I'd feel my wife were being closed off with me, I'd try to fix things. If she refuses to fix the situation I'd imagine the natural course of action would be to look for a divorce.
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 11:18 pm)Thena323 Wrote:
(May 10, 2016 at 9:29 pm)pool the great Wrote: Well Thena, as far as our community goes, women choose to be housewives instead of pursuing careers. If what you are saying is true and husband regularly treat women as inferiors, like a dog, then wouldn't you think that the woman would be entirely displeased, look like shit with all the work her man makes her do, have regular fights at house and cops get called in etc?
I see these women daily, they look stunning, there is no stress in their face because" hubby will take care of it ", they don't look unhappy in the slightest , we don't have a single cop visit from domestic violence, and in my entire life time I've seen only 1 divorce case, which was my uncles.

Looking stunning is hardly an accurate indication of an individual's happiness, pool. If you weren't so shallow, you'd have absolutely no problem understanding that. 

It's just as ridiculous for you to conclude that an absence of police intervention for domestic violence in your community (how you could possibly be privy to such knowledge without being on the police force, I do not know) means that abuse does not or cannot occur. Economic dependence, strict gender roles, and economic stress of sole providers are well-known risk factors for domestic violence. Lack of earning/survival options is one of the primary reasons victims feel compelled to "go along to get along" and suffer in silence. 

Quote:You know, these observations don't lie, if your assertion that women were being oppressed and treated like shit were true then my observations would've been different. But these observations does match up with me asserting that they are treated as princesses, which they like, hence them lot leaving their husband.

What part of 'economic dependence' do you not understand, pool? 

Quote:I treat all my girlfriends like little princess baby's, then aren't breaking up with me for belittling, dehumanizing and treating them like dogs (as per what you're saying)... Maybe I really am treating them like gods and they like it.  Dig?  :')

And what if these "princess babies" are okay with being dehumanized and belittled? Does being able to demean or otherwise mistreat fellow humans beings means that you should?

I think our back and forth argument has a lot to do with perceptions. 

I think it's treating women like princesses when someone works their ass off to make money so that she can be happy, get a house so that she can be happy, bring her flowers so that she can be happy, treat her good so that she can be happy, kiss her so that she can be happy, let her go on shopping sprees so that she can be happy, make her life as stress free as possible so that she can be happy.

You think it's treating women like pets,dehumanizing women,belittling women and oppressing women when someone works their ass off to make money so that she can be happy, get a house so that she can be happy, bring her flowers so that she can be happy, treat her good so that she can be happy, kiss her so that she can be happy, let her go on shopping sprees so that she can be happy, make her life as stress free as possible so that she can be happy.

Either way, the point is, at least in our community, women love to be taken care of and men love to take care of, so I doubt our trend would change.
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
Most of the time you only seem moderately sexist to me. I personally don't need anyone to let me go on shopping sprees because I do what I want. <insert Cartman meme here>
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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RE: "Men are all pigs"
(May 10, 2016 at 11:46 pm)Losty Wrote: Most of the time you only seem moderately sexist to me. I personally don't need anyone to let me go on shopping sprees because I do what I want. <insert Cartman meme here>



Sexism is good as long as it favors women, it's the transparent hypocrisy of our modern society. I didn't see a single outrage from men or women when I said I prefer to treat women like princesses,goddesses etc. Not that I don't like treating women as superior beings, it's the hypocrisy that gets to me.

Here is a study for you to dwell in, https://uwspace.uwaterloo.ca/bitstream/h...sequence=1 
The study shows that when women are not treated as superiors it is viewed as sexism by both men and women.
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