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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm
(May 19, 2016 at 1:41 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I doubt it's actually described in buddhism at all...more an issue of buddhists -seeing- or -hearing- buddhism everywhere, in every comment made by anyone on any subject. Bit like this thread.
I was thinking this as well. It's like the people who look at passages from the Bible or Koran and say "See?! They were explicitly talking about the Big Bang/expansion of the universe/vacuum of space/etc in this passage!" because they found a handful of vague terms that can be interpreted with modern knowledge to mean what we want them to mean.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2016 at 1:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It's just something we do. I'm sure that someone will be along shortly to tell us that buddhism isn't anything like those other icky religions, and that buddhists aren't doing precisely that.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:47 pm
(May 19, 2016 at 1:39 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Secular aspects of Buddhism isn't necessarily all wrong. Karma? That's bullshit. Reincarnation? Bullshit. Meditation? Has never worked for me personally. The indivisibility of our conscious selves? Not bullshit, science supports it.
It may be described in Buddhism but it's not actually a supernatural aspect of it.
Can't disagree with you here.
There's various takes on Buddhism.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:50 pm
As soon as science supports something it's no longer religious BA-ZING!
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:51 pm
Muslim scientists invented algebra, does that make algebra Islamic? Nope, once something actually makes sense religions have to disown it.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:53 pm
(May 19, 2016 at 1:50 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: As soon as science supports something it's no longer religious BA-ZING!
The two aren't mutually exclusive. (The desire to segregate them notwithstanding.)
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm by robvalue.)
Religion can have some scientific stuff in it, sure. Those of us of who follow the scientific method dispense with the rest of it. It doesn't matter where the ideas came from first, it doesn't make them "Buddhist" or "Islamic" or whatever.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:55 pm
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Excellent, then we can test buddhism. Perhaps you'd like to offer up those truths you referred to, and the method proposed to free oneself of whatever it is were meant to escape?
(it's rare we get someone who believes in something they don;t immediately claim is beyond the purview of science, that doesn't demand exclusion)
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 1:59 pm
(May 19, 2016 at 1:51 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Muslim scientists invented algebra, does that make algebra Islamic? Nope, once something actually makes sense religions have to disown it.
Is algebra key to the Islamic religion? This sounds more like scientific posturing.
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RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 2:00 pm
Irony, thy name is faith.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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