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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 21, 2016 at 3:09 am
(May 20, 2016 at 7:28 pm)quip Wrote: (May 20, 2016 at 4:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: A conversation between quip and Rik is something I'd pay to not see.
I'll send you my paypal info.
I like Quip.
LR is very irritating but I don't think he means to be such a stupendously craycray wankmuffin of a twatwaffling douchenozzle. He's a well-meaning unfuckable fuckface IMO.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 21, 2016 at 10:15 am
(May 3, 2016 at 4:51 am)Wryetui Wrote: I am starting this post because, so far, no atheist ever showed me evidence for their beliefs (or as you say, "lack of beliefs") and I am curious.
Atheism is simply that we do not accept your claim. It is not a claim in itself. The burden of proof always falls to the claimant.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 21, 2016 at 10:51 am
(May 21, 2016 at 3:09 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (May 20, 2016 at 7:28 pm)quip Wrote: I'll send you my paypal info.
I like Quip.
LR is very irritating but I don't think he means to be such a stupendously craycray wankmuffin of a twatwaffling douchenozzle. He's a well-meaning unfuckable fuckface IMO.
Little Rik is the only person on my ignore list. I just couldn't take the nonsense and Emojis anymore.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 21, 2016 at 11:40 am
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(May 21, 2016 at 10:51 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Little Rik is the only person on my ignore list. I just couldn't take the nonsense and Emojis anymore.
I've got noone on my ignore list. But I have quite a few on mental ignore. The ones usually not interesting enough but also not sufficiently obnoxious to engage. Little Rik certainly has a prominent place on it.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 22, 2016 at 7:49 am
(May 21, 2016 at 10:15 am)IATIA Wrote: (May 3, 2016 at 4:51 am)Wryetui Wrote: I am starting this post because, so far, no atheist ever showed me evidence for their beliefs (or as you say, "lack of beliefs") and I am curious.
Atheism is simply that we do not accept your claim. It is not a claim in itself. The burden of proof always falls to the claimant.
You are an absolute joke IAT.
I have been asked atheists for solid evidence about all their claims and after 3 years I am still waiting.
How long shell I keep on waiting mate?
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 22, 2016 at 8:36 am
Thing is, most of these claims about which you're complaining are strawman ones that you yourself have been attributing to us, as opposed to being made by us. So it's hardly likely that nobody is giving you any answers that are, very revealingly, only in your head. And I have never been your mate, before you play that card.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 22, 2016 at 9:35 am
(May 22, 2016 at 8:36 am)Stimbo Wrote: Thing is, most of these claims about which you're complaining are strawman ones that you yourself have been attributing to us, as opposed to being made by us. So it's hardly likely that nobody is giving you any answers that are, very revealingly, only in your head. And I have never been your mate, before you play that card.
Whoooooooo, whooooo, whooooo.
So you reckon that i invented that........the consciousness is a product of the brain.........that we are
what we are due to the evolution of the species......that only the physical senses can perceive sound,
colors and all other feelings.......that when we die is all over and so on.
Stimmmmm.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 22, 2016 at 10:07 am
(May 22, 2016 at 9:35 am)Little Rik Wrote: (May 22, 2016 at 8:36 am)Stimbo Wrote: Thing is, most of these claims about which you're complaining are strawman ones that you yourself have been attributing to us, as opposed to being made by us. So it's hardly likely that nobody is giving you any answers that are, very revealingly, only in your head. And I have never been your mate, before you play that card.
Whoooooooo, whooooo, whooooo.
So you reckon that i invented that........the consciousness is a product of the brain.........that we are
what we are due to the evolution of the species......that only the physical senses can perceive sound,
colors and all other feelings.......that when we die is all over and so on.
Stimmmmm.
Ricky, these aren't really things we 'claim' so much as things we expect. I mean, suppose you're studying consciousness in a lab. You've got the subject all wired up and are studying what parts of the brain are lit up when the subject is subjected to various stimuli. I expect that if the subject's head is severed all readings would cease. Do you harbor a different expectation? If so, may I ask why?
I expect that a brain is to consciousness as a light bulb is to light. Unplug either the brain or the bulb and the consciousness or light ceases. Where does the light go when the bulb is unplugged? It isn't anywhere. There may be other lights on elsewhere, but that bulb's light isn't in light-heaven or in some alternate dimension. It is simply off, a light no more, except in potential. Detach a brain from what fuels it and the consciousness which had been there a moment ago is no more. Where has it gone? Consciousness-heaven? The consciousness-dimension? I expect not. But don't ask me for proof that your fanciful theories don't hold water. If you can't see they only hold shit, it is your loss. It isn't my responsibility to talk you out of your weird ideas.
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 22, 2016 at 10:08 am
1. Get a brain
2. Beat the brain with a baseball bat
3. ??
4. Profit
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RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 22, 2016 at 10:16 am
(May 22, 2016 at 9:35 am)Little Rik Wrote: (May 22, 2016 at 8:36 am)Stimbo Wrote: Thing is, most of these claims about which you're complaining are strawman ones that you yourself have been attributing to us, as opposed to being made by us. So it's hardly likely that nobody is giving you any answers that are, very revealingly, only in your head. And I have never been your mate, before you play that card.
Whoooooooo, whooooo, whooooo.
So you reckon that i invented that........the consciousness is a product of the brain.........that we are
what we are due to the evolution of the species......that only the physical senses can perceive sound,
colors and all other feelings.......that when we die is all over and so on.
Stimmmmm.
Yes. And then foisted it onto your opponents and crowed about how they couldn't prove it. Basically you're a disingenuous dickhole.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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