Every single attempt at justifying the god of the Old Testament has been exceedingly poor.

There are numerous occasions when god supposedly went on genocidal killing sprees, (wow, news huh?) not to mention we have no evidence of these supposed events.

2 Kings 19:35
"And it came to pass that night, that the angel of the Lord went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: (185,000!!) and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses"

Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately.
But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

Not to mention, the guy is a fucking slave owner

Leviticus 25:44-46
"‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly."

Anyone who wishes to condone the supposed actions of this guy are invited.
Or even anyone who wants to provide evidence where 185,000 people just fucking drop dead in one night or similar stories.

One might wonder why the Assyrians were so stupid as to send 185,000 men to attack a shithole of about 7-8,000 in the first place. 

God seems to exaggerate a lot.

If God wants his people to have slaves, why not just create serving humanoids with no sentience? As many as are needed?

Oh right, because it has to fit around the facts, at least loosely.

(May 26, 2016 at 3:00 am)robvalue Wrote: If God wants his people to have slaves, why not just create serving humanoids with no sentience? As many as are needed?

Oh right, because it has to fit around the facts, at least loosely.

Too right it does. People in slave societies don't own slaves because God told them they could. They own slaves first and then use God as an excuse to justify human chattel: 'Well, if having slaves was wrong, our all-powerful God would stop slavery. Since we have these slaves, God must approve of slavery. QED.'

Twisty fucks.

Boru

IME they dont justify it. Most Christians I've come across, are either completely unaware of it, or pretend they can just ignore it, cus Jesus. They cant seem to get their heads around the fact that the god of the OT is the same god as the NT, and that all the disgusting shit he did in the OT, can't just be swept under the carpet because of the apparent personality transplant he seemed have had by the time the NT was written.

I really don't understand the mental gymnastics of the believers. I mean why do the people who were shunned as blacks, slaves, e.t.c flock to join xtianity, the very thing that oppressed them for centuries and still fosters bigotry to this day. Same goes for the women who support xtianity and islam. Do people really like to get oppressed or something?

And what personality transplant? JC was a bigot and hater even by his own PR standards, and even he supposedly had to whine to yahweh who's obviously a bigger dick. By no means does it mean yahweh was any different from OT, rather all it seems like is got himself a PR manager who did shitty job and got fired.

I get the feeling that the religion kind of validates oppression to the oppressed. Like there's a reason for it; in the same way there's a reason for the suffering in the world.

Without the religion for comfort, the stark reality is presented.

(May 26, 2016 at 5:53 am)Godless-Heathen Wrote: IME they dont justify it. Most Christians I've come across, are either completely unaware of it, or pretend they can just ignore it, cus Jesus. They cant seem to get their heads around the fact that the god of the OT is the same god as the NT, and that all the disgusting shit he did in the OT, can't just be swept under the carpet because of the apparent personality transplant he seemed have had by the time the NT was written.

If they go the second route quote Matthew 5:17 & 18 at them, and tell them it's not very christian to go against Jesus.

(June 1, 2016 at 9:49 am)Drich Wrote: Now ask yourself why do 'we' get a pass for killing women and children to make our lives better...

We don't.