(May 26, 2016 at 3:27 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(May 25, 2016 at 4:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Fine, then move there if you think it is so much better. I have the same fucking problem with morons who think Che was a hero. He was an opportunist who played off of people's fears, just like Trump. I tell them the same thing, if it is so great then move to Cuba. Move to China if you think it is such a utopia.

We are trying to look like China's  sweat shop wages and that charge to create more worker instability started with Reagan's deregulation and union busting. But only an idiot thinks we have more human rights abuses.

There are millions of pictures that document America's human rights violations.  Most people love the propaganda that tells lies about how wonderful we are.  

China is a dirty polluted place full of xenophobic racists, somewhat like America but with less violence and more modern.

Human rights violations? Says the guy advocating the killing of civilians. That's a huge contradiction right there. If you hate human rights violations as much as I do then you won't say that killing non-combatants is acceptable.

(May 26, 2016 at 3:57 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote:

(May 26, 2016 at 3:27 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There are millions of pictures that document America's human rights violations.  Most people love the propaganda that tells lies about how wonderful we are.  

China is a dirty polluted place full of xenophobic racists, somewhat like America but with less violence and more modern.

Human rights violations? Says the guy advocating the killing of civilians. That's a huge contradiction right there. If you hate human rights violations as much as I do then you won't say that killing non-combatants is acceptable.

Fuck you asshole! Nobody is advocating murder of civilians. But only one party takes a bigger risk of harming more civilians. Bush's ground invasions murdered far more civilians than anything Obama has done. I hate it when any unarmed civilian dies no matter who the president is. 

No this is more bullshit double speak trying to have it both ways. It is impossible to never engage and isolate ourselves and do nothing ever. Bush's ground invasions cost far more lives. And even with Afghanistan we could have not telegraphed our moves with a ground invasion and did what Obama finally did.

I don't want to hear any bullshit lectures from the assholes who gave us Iraq and support torture.

Our problem is our corporate fuel plutocracy and corporate weapons industry. The GOP hates Obama because he wont let them create more ground wars to allow them to get rich off of.

Er, Brian, if nobody in this topic is advocating the murder of innocent civilians then what is this:



Wryd of God said right there that there are no innocent civilians. The person you should be telling to fuck themselves is not me.

(May 26, 2016 at 3:48 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(May 26, 2016 at 3:12 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

So a kid walking around unarmed is a fighter? You're an absolute fucking looney. If anything, you're the bloody terrorist!

If the fighting lasts long enough he will become an active fighter.  The intent is to end the fighting as quickly as possible.  We've never been reluctant to kill babies in war.  Therefore if you want to protect them don't start a war.

I think that Trump is less likely to run off to war than Hillary is. Trump seems to be more of an isolationist than a war-monger like Hillary.

(May 26, 2016 at 10:51 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(May 26, 2016 at 3:48 am)Bella Morte Wrote: So a kid walking around unarmed is a fighter? You're an absolute fucking looney. If anything, you're the bloody terrorist!

If the fighting lasts long enough he will become an active fighter.  The intent is to end the fighting as quickly as possible.  We've never been reluctant to kill babies in war.  Therefore if you want to protect them don't start a war.

Unfortunately evolution does not work that way, not even in humans. The only thing humans have is empathy, and that means fostering global diplomacy. I agree we don't need more war, but we also cannot be isolationists 100% of the time either.

My X wife is Japanese, her grandfather served for Japan against us. Her parents were young at the time. I know damned well they were good parents otherwise I wouldn't have married her. I don't blame them for the beefs our governments had between each other. I only blame Japan for it's fascism of the time.

I am sick of far too much of my species worldwide not seeing our governments have the ideological conflicts but the average civilian as an individual are simply sold the societal norms of the societies they were born into. None of that changes the fact that all 7 billion of us are the same species. I only blame bad ideas, not individuals.

(May 26, 2016 at 11:00 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I think that Trump is less likely to run off to war than Hillary is.    Trump seems to be more of an isolationist than a war-monger like Hillary.

He seems to be an isolationist war monger. The man contradicts everything he says.

(May 25, 2016 at 3:08 pm)Tiberius Wrote: You're such a hypocrite. You were the one who originally compared the USA to China, and yet when someone brings up a load of positive things the USA has which China lacks, you say it's not a "fair comparison". Well if it's not a fair comparison, don't make the comparison to begin with.

I was merely pointing out they're the most war-hungry nation on the planet, and that no other nation on Earth has such disrespect for the sovereignty foreign nation-states. In the End of Year Survey 2013 , the USA was the overwhelming choice as the greatest threat to world peace:

"The US was the overwhelming choice (24% of respondents) for the country that represents the greatest threat to peace in the world today. This was followed by Pakistan (8%), China (6%), North Korea, Israel and Iran (5%). Respondents in Russia (54%), China (49%) and Bosnia (49%) were the most fearful of the US as a threat."

(May 26, 2016 at 3:12 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(May 25, 2016 at 11:30 am)Bella Morte Wrote: That's funny. Because last I checked most of the victims of drone strikes were civilians. And just because it's a war doesn't mean laws just disappear.

In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

Yeah, you've tried this before. You never did explain why kids should die for the enmities of their parents.

Not that you've ever explained anything else, either. You're a dolt.

(May 26, 2016 at 3:48 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(May 26, 2016 at 3:12 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: In war everyone is a fighter.  There are no innocent "civilians".

So a kid walking around unarmed is a fighter? You're an absolute fucking looney. If anything, you're the bloody terrorist!

No, he's a little boy jacking off about his own online posts ... he doesn't have the balls to actually do a single thing about his beliefs.