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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 12:46 pm
God hates figs.
That's what the Westboro folks have wrong. Jesus said
Quote:Mark 11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever.
And yet we in America continue to tolerate people eating figs, despite our Lord's clear command.
And so American soldiers die while fighting overseas as a direct result. Occam's Razor. It's the simplest explanation. Do I need to draw a map for you?
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm
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(June 3, 2016 at 11:50 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 11:06 am)Emjay Wrote:
I imagine all the Christians in this thread got involved because the OP made an assertion about Christianity and about Christians. An assertion that we felt we should clarify, and explain what our views actually are. That is what explains our presence in this thread.
We have assertions made about us in many more forums (churches, prayer meetings etc) than this little forum, are we as welcome to challenge their views as you are here?
(June 3, 2016 at 11:52 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 11:50 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ...Unfortunately I fall short many times, especially as a cranky, sick pregnant woman being outnumbered on an atheist forum. Congratulations!
Would you offer the same congratulations to an atheist challenging your view in your church?
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 12:59 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 9:15 am)Drich Wrote: (June 2, 2016 at 3:30 pm)Vincent Wrote: The way I interpret it is this: either Hell is a separation from god, destroying his omnipresence, OR god is present even in Hell. If the latter is the case, this means that God watches and observes the billions in Hell burning and crying and writhing in agony, without taking action to save them. Which by extension means that God is either a) not all-loving, as he will not save those experiencing eternal pain and suffering, or b) he cannot act, thus making him not all-powerful.
Or again, God is not Omni max, but Alpha and Omega as He Himself is recorded describing Himself as, and as such can do whatever he pleases and is not bound by the definations the omni max God is.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:00 pm
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I take three omni-max pills a day, it's really good for my confidence and cures headaches.
I don't eat figs. Jesus would be proud of me.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:02 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm)madog Wrote: Would you offer the same congratulations to an atheist challenging your view in your church? I offer congratulations to people that are my friends. A gentleman does not presume that strangers are always happy with their pregnancies.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:04 pm
(June 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm)madog Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 11:50 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I imagine all the Christians in this thread got involved because the OP made an assertion about Christianity and about Christians. An assertion that we felt we should clarify, and explain what our views actually are. That is what explains our presence in this thread.
We have assertions made about us in many more forums (churches, prayer meetings etc) than this little forum, are we as welcome to challenge their views as you are here?
(June 3, 2016 at 11:52 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Congratulations!
Would you offer the same congratulations to an atheist challenging your view in your church?
He was congratulating me on being pregnant.
I've been on a couple theist forums. I can't speak for all of them, but the ones I participated in CAF, and Reasonable Faith, atheists are welcome so long as they are respectful. But the rule about being respectful applies to everyone. Also, I'm not "trying to challenge your views" at all. I don't care that you don't believe in God. I was merely clearing up the assertion about Christianity made in the OP, on the Christian subforum. I'm not sure what exactly your point is, unless you think I personally started a forum where atheists weren't allowed to talk, in which case you could rightfully call me a hypocrite for it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:24 pm
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:27 pm
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(June 3, 2016 at 1:02 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm)madog Wrote: Would you offer the same congratulations to an atheist challenging your view in your church? I offer congratulations to people that are my friends. A gentleman does not presume that strangers are always happy with their pregnancies.
Do you have no atheist friends? goes with the territory I suppose
(June 3, 2016 at 1:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (June 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm)madog Wrote: He was congratulating me on being pregnant.
I've been on a couple theist forums. I can't speak for all of them, but the ones I participated in CAF, and Reasonable Faith, atheists are welcome so long as they are respectful. But the rule about being respectful applies to everyone. Also, I'm not "trying to challenge your views" at all. I don't care that you don't believe in God. I was merely clearing up the assertion about Christianity made in the OP, on the Christian subforum. I'm not sure what exactly your point is, unless you think I personally started a forum where atheists weren't allowed to talk, in which case you could rightfully call me a hypocrite for it.
Sorry if that was picked up wrong ... and if that was his intention I also offer my congratulations
I am new to this forum and see a lot of "Christians" using it as a way to preach .... I say preach because they always seem to revert to their own religious bias ..... understandable I suppose, but those "Christians" seem to forget that they have many other forums to discuss stuff .... note atheists don't have churches (fortunately)
I guess I am a little suspicious of the "Christians" I have seen on this forum because they seem to be wanting to support their own beliefs and not wanting to actually become atheists .... I may be wrong.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm
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(June 3, 2016 at 10:21 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I hear this assertion so often that I listed some of the evidence in my signature line. How do you test evidence? By comparing it with other evidence. Notice that I list, not one, but three pieces of evidence that independently verify the validity of the others. So don't continue to LIE and tell us there is no evidence.
There is NO evidence. Your sig is strictly opinion biased toward a belief in a god. It does not have any substance. I cannot prove god does not exist, but my attempt at disproving god has significantly more substance than that.
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RE: Hell and God cant Co-exist.
June 3, 2016 at 1:49 pm
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Sorry wrong post
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