Hell and God cant Co-exist.

[emjay]

When any of you guys actually start practising what you preach... "love your neighbor as yourself", "turn the other cheek", "love those that hate you", and of course most ignored one of all "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... then maybe I'll start paying attention to what you say, but until then there's nothing to learn from hypocrites. I have my reasons for not believing in god... some are rational, some are irrational, some are biased... whatever... but they're my reasons. What right do any of you have to shove it down my throat after I've said I'm not interested? Change comes from within. If I want to learn about Christianity I'll go to a Christian site and ask questions, but it will come from my will and my choice to ask, if or when I'm ready to do so. Who has ever learned anything from those attacking them or those they don't trust? These aren't discussions, they're wars. Neither side will ever truly learn anything from the other so what's the point? I don't go on Christian sites trying to deconvert Christians, so all I'm asking is the same respect for the word 'no' back. You can say I'm in rebellion or whatever else but even if that were the case, it would still be my choice to make. How many times has someone started a blasphemy thread to effectively say 'we're not interested and you're wasting your time with us' only for you to come along and say 'well you haven't really done it, so that gives us licence to keep trying'? Get the fucking hint... no means no. If I want it, I'll seek it, but not on this site and not from the likes of you lot.

[SteveII]

When any of you guys actually start practising what you preach... "love your neighbor as yourself", "turn the other cheek", "love those that hate you", and of course most ignored one of all "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... then maybe I'll start paying attention to what you say, but until then there's nothing to learn from hypocrites. I have my reasons for not believing in god... some are rational, some are irrational, some are biased... whatever... but they're my reasons. What right do any of you have to shove it down my throat after I've said I'm not interested? Change comes from within. If I want to learn about Christianity I'll go to a Christian site and ask questions, but it will come from my will and my choice to ask, if or when I'm ready to do so. Who has ever learned anything from those attacking them or those they don't trust? These aren't discussions, they're wars. Neither side will ever truly learn anything from the other so what's the point? I don't go on Christian sites trying to deconvert Christians, so all I'm asking is the same respect for the word 'no' back. You can say I'm in rebellion or whatever else but even if that were the case, it would still be my choice to make. How many times has someone started a blasphemy thread to effectively say 'we're not interested and you're wasting your time with us' only for you to come along and say 'well you haven't really done it, so that gives us licence to keep trying'? Get the fucking hint... no means no. If I want it, I'll seek it, but not on this site and not from the likes of you lot.

I, for one, am not trying to convert you (or anyone). I am simply correcting misrepresentations and misunderstandings about Christianity (of which this site abounds) while stretching my brain and improving skills I decided to work on. 

How about you don't click on the Christianity forum if you don't want to read debates about Christian thought. Or, is it your understanding that this site is only for atheist alone to congratulate themselves on their deep thoughts?

[emjay]

When any of you guys actually start practising what you preach... "love your neighbor as yourself", "turn the other cheek", "love those that hate you", and of course most ignored one of all "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... then maybe I'll start paying attention to what you say, but until then there's nothing to learn from hypocrites. I have my reasons for not believing in god... some are rational, some are irrational, some are biased... whatever... but they're my reasons. What right do any of you have to shove it down my throat after I've said I'm not interested? Change comes from within. If I want to learn about Christianity I'll go to a Christian site and ask questions, but it will come from my will and my choice to ask, if or when I'm ready to do so. Who has ever learned anything from those attacking them or those they don't trust? These aren't discussions, they're wars. Neither side will ever truly learn anything from the other so what's the point? I don't go on Christian sites trying to deconvert Christians, so all I'm asking is the same respect for the word 'no' back. You can say I'm in rebellion or whatever else but even if that were the case, it would still be my choice to make. How many times has someone started a blasphemy thread to effectively say 'we're not interested and you're wasting your time with us' only for you to come along and say 'well you haven't really done it, so that gives us licence to keep trying'? Get the fucking hint... no means no. If I want it, I'll seek it, but not on this site and not from the likes of you lot.

I, for one, am not trying to convert you (or anyone). I am simply correcting misrepresentations and misunderstandings about Christianity (of which this site abounds) while stretching my brain and improving skills I decided to work on. 

How about you don't click on the Christianity forum if you don't want to read debates about Christian thought. Or, is it your understanding that this site is only for atheist alone to congratulate themselves on their deep thoughts?

Maybe there's a clue in the title? As far as I'm concerned, you guys are unwelcome invaders. Not as individuals necessarily but when you just keep pushing your wares on people who are not interested and maybe have come here as a supposed refuge from your shit in the real world. I know this site is supposed to be open to all but it is nonetheless an atheist site, and I've yet to see a productive debate about Christianity here.

[Catholic_Lady]

When any of you guys actually start practising what you preach... "love your neighbor as yourself", "turn the other cheek", "love those that hate you", and of course most ignored one of all "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... then maybe I'll start paying attention to what you say, but until then there's nothing to learn from hypocrites. I have my reasons for not believing in god... some are rational, some are irrational, some are biased... whatever... but they're my reasons. What right do any of you have to shove it down my throat after I've said I'm not interested? Change comes from within. If I want to learn about Christianity I'll go to a Christian site and ask questions, but it will come from my will and my choice to ask, if or when I'm ready to do so. Who has ever learned anything from those attacking them or those they don't trust? These aren't discussions, they're wars. Neither side will ever truly learn anything from the other so what's the point? I don't go on Christian sites trying to deconvert Christians, so all I'm asking is the same respect for the word 'no' back. You can say I'm in rebellion or whatever else but even if that were the case, it would still be my choice to make. How many times has someone started a blasphemy thread to effectively say 'we're not interested and you're wasting your time with us' only for you to come along and say 'well you haven't really done it, so that gives us licence to keep trying'? Get the fucking hint... no means no. If I want it, I'll seek it, but not on this site and not from the likes of you lot.

I fully respect your right not to believe anything you don't want to, and I would never try to shove anything down anyone's throat regarding what they do or do not believe.  

I imagine all the Christians in this thread got involved because the OP made an assertion about Christianity and about Christians. An assertion that we felt we should clarify, and explain what our views actually are. That is what explains our presence in this thread.  

I love the teachings you listed above, about turning the other cheek, etc. Unfortunately I fall short many times, especially as a cranky, sick pregnant woman being outnumbered on an atheist forum. And I'm sorry for that.

[Neo-Scholastic]

...Unfortunately I fall short many times, especially as a cranky, sick pregnant woman being outnumbered on an atheist forum.

Congratulations!

[robvalue]

Let's not forget that Jesus was a maniac with at least two distinct personalities, spouting horrible, dangerous divisive shit as much as hippy sounding crap. People seem to mostly form an idealised version of an already fictional character, by picking out a handful of mellow sounding quotes from all the nonsense.

I'll take your average hippy who just says the hippy stuff.

Don't believe me? Go read the New Testament. As in, all of it. Right through.

[Esquilax]

Let's not forget that Jesus was a maniac with at least two distinct personalities, spouting horrible, dangerous divisive shit as much as hippy sounding crap. People seem to mostly form an idealised version of an already fictional character, by picking out a handful of mellow sounding quotes from all the nonsense.

I'll take your average hippy who just says the hippy stuff.

Don't believe me? Go read the New Testament. As in, all of it. Right through.

You don't curse a fig tree without having some kind of imbalance going on.

And don't get me started on that shit with the moneylenders!

[emjay]

When any of you guys actually start practising what you preach... "love your neighbor as yourself", "turn the other cheek", "love those that hate you", and of course most ignored one of all "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... then maybe I'll start paying attention to what you say, but until then there's nothing to learn from hypocrites. I have my reasons for not believing in god... some are rational, some are irrational, some are biased... whatever... but they're my reasons. What right do any of you have to shove it down my throat after I've said I'm not interested? Change comes from within. If I want to learn about Christianity I'll go to a Christian site and ask questions, but it will come from my will and my choice to ask, if or when I'm ready to do so. Who has ever learned anything from those attacking them or those they don't trust? These aren't discussions, they're wars. Neither side will ever truly learn anything from the other so what's the point? I don't go on Christian sites trying to deconvert Christians, so all I'm asking is the same respect for the word 'no' back. You can say I'm in rebellion or whatever else but even if that were the case, it would still be my choice to make. How many times has someone started a blasphemy thread to effectively say 'we're not interested and you're wasting your time with us' only for you to come along and say 'well you haven't really done it, so that gives us licence to keep trying'? Get the fucking hint... no means no. If I want it, I'll seek it, but not on this site and not from the likes of you lot.

I fully respect your right not to believe anything you don't want to, and I would never try to shove anything down anyone's throat regarding what they do or do not believe.  

I imagine all the Christians in this thread got involved because the OP made an assertion about Christianity and about Christians. An assertion that we felt we should clarify, and explain what our views actually are. That is what explains our presence in this thread.  

I love the teachings you listed above, about turning the other cheek, etc. Unfortunately I fall short many times, especially as a cranky, sick pregnant woman being outnumbered on an atheist forum. And I'm sorry for that.

I'm sorry CL. I just snapped for a minute there, reading all the posturing in this thread. You've never pushed anything on anyone 

We've all got our crosses to bear and trying to do our best but being human we all fail sometimes. You're trying to turn the other cheek and I hate anger and try to reign that in, but being human we fail sometimes. So sorry for my outburst. Peace 

[Catholic_Lady]

I fully respect your right not to believe anything you don't want to, and I would never try to shove anything down anyone's throat regarding what they do or do not believe.  

I imagine all the Christians in this thread got involved because the OP made an assertion about Christianity and about Christians. An assertion that we felt we should clarify, and explain what our views actually are. That is what explains our presence in this thread.  

I love the teachings you listed above, about turning the other cheek, etc. Unfortunately I fall short many times, especially as a cranky, sick pregnant woman being outnumbered on an atheist forum. And I'm sorry for that.

I'm sorry CL. I just snapped for a minute there, reading all the posturing in this thread. You've never pushed anything on anyone 

We've all got our crosses to bear and trying to do our best but being human we all fail sometimes. You're trying to turn the other cheek and I hate anger and try to reign that in, but being human we fail sometimes. So sorry for my outburst. Peace 

You're ok, I've had plenty myself. 

[madog]

 

I, for one, am not trying to convert you (or anyone).  

Your religion says that you should be ... when I "evangelized" I didn't turn off when talking to atheists .... are you some how different?