I think it was just a fool, backed into a corner and without anything substantive to say, who blurted something stupid in - as Dorfl put it - an attempt at cleverness.

(June 8, 2016 at 4:21 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I think it was just a fool who, backed into a corner and without anything substantive to say, blurted something stupid in - as Dorfl put it - an attempt at cleverness.

I couldn't agree more, but nothing annoys me more than someone calling someone else racist when they actually aren't. I respect Constable and can understand how that post in question was probably offensive, but it isn't racist.

(June 8, 2016 at 4:34 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(June 8, 2016 at 4:21 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I think it was just a fool who, backed into a corner and without anything substantive to say, blurted something stupid in - as Dorfl put it - an attempt at cleverness.

I couldn't agree more, but nothing annoys me more than someone calling someone else racist when they actually aren't. I respect Constable and can understand how that post in question was probably offensive, but isn't racist.

Racist remains a strong word in my vocabulary, if no one else's. That comment isn't racist, it's stupid, so pathetically stupid that no one should even be offended by it.

(June 7, 2016 at 8:24 am)ChadWooters Wrote: If all possibilities are logically exhausted then my use of 'only' is justified. There really isn't any way to weasel out of it. Not even quantum mechanics will save you. Nothing does not exist.

You threw this bullshit out because you didn't like where the conversation was going  "So, madog, you agree with the observation that only actual things can cause change?"

I answered you: 

"No the lack of "actual things can cause change" .... the lack of any heat in the universe can cause the universe to cool .... the lack of gravity can cause curved light to travel in a straight line .... The lack of a glass can make liquid spread across a surface ... etc, etc, etc ....."

Where is your response ..... Note I didn't introduce your bullshit I merely responded .... don't throw bullshit at me if you are not prepared to answer when I respond 

(June 8, 2016 at 4:37 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:

(June 8, 2016 at 4:34 am)Bella Morte Wrote: I couldn't agree more, but nothing annoys me more than someone calling someone else racist when they actually aren't. I respect Constable and can understand how that post in question was probably offensive, but isn't racist.

Racist remains a strong word in my vocabulary, if no one else's. That comment isn't racist, it's stupid, so pathetically stupid that no one should even be offended by it.

For me, any maligning of a whole cultural group because of the real or perceiced attributes of a single member or sub-set of that group is racism. And what Wooters did was malign the whole of the Irish cultural group because of an attribute he imagines I have.

Plus it's always funny listening to his butthurt whining.

(June 8, 2016 at 10:41 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:

(June 8, 2016 at 4:37 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Racist remains a strong word in my vocabulary, if no one else's. That comment isn't racist, it's stupid, so pathetically stupid that no one should even be offended by it.

For me, any maligning of a whole cultural group because of the real or perceiced attributes of a single member or sub-set of that group is racism. And what Wooters did was malign the whole of the Irish cultural group because of an attribute he imagines I have.

Plus it's always funny listening to his butthurt whining.

Even if the group isn't a race?

(June 8, 2016 at 5:08 am)madog Wrote: "No the lack of "actual things can cause change" .... the lack of any heat in the universe can cause the universe to cool .... the lack of gravity can cause curved light to travel in a straight line .... The lack of a glass can make liquid spread across a surface ... etc, etc, etc ....."

Where is your response ..... Note I didn't introduce your bullshit I merely responded .... don't throw bullshit at me if you are not prepared to answer when I respond 

I just didn’t take you objection seriously. Bodies in motion stay in motion and bodies at rest stay at rest until acted upon by another. In your example, it is already in the nature of light to travel straight so no causal agent is needed for it to continue doing so.

(June 8, 2016 at 10:41 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: For me, any maligning of a whole cultural group because of the real or perceiced attributes of a single member or sub-set of that group is racism. And what Wooters did was malign the whole of the Irish cultural group because of an attribute he imagines I have.

I have yet to hear NPR listeners demand Garrison Keiller stop telling jokes about Norwegians in Lake Woebegon. They must all be racists. :-)

And my reply was to Jor, not you.

(June 8, 2016 at 10:43 am)ChadWooters Wrote:

(June 8, 2016 at 5:08 am)madog Wrote: "No the lack of "actual things can cause change" .... the lack of any heat in the universe can cause the universe to cool .... the lack of gravity can cause curved light to travel in a straight line .... The lack of a glass can make liquid spread across a surface ... etc, etc, etc ....."

Where is your response ..... Note I didn't introduce your bullshit I merely responded .... don't throw bullshit at me if you are not prepared to answer when I respond 

I just didn’t take you objection seriously. Bodies in motion stay in motion and bodies at rest stay at rest until acted upon by another. In your example, it is already in the nature of light to travel straight so no causal agent is needed for it to continue doing so.

Your arrogance to one side .... If heat can cause something cold to heat up, the lack of heat can cause something hot to cool down ...

As you state there is always a cause ....  what makes something hot to cool down?

Dog.

(June 8, 2016 at 10:41 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: For me, any maligning of a whole cultural group because of the real or perceiced attributes of a single member or sub-set of that group is racism. And what Wooters did was malign the whole of the Irish cultural group because of an attribute he imagines I have.

I wouldn't give him that much credit.