A poll on both probable nominees turns out an overwhelmingly negative response. Speaks for the American people, doesn't speak for the American parties, which have to try to polish and sell a turd.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elec...9a28ac5fce

Quote:What really matters, of course, is how the public views each candidate. In a new HuffPost/YouGov poll, we turned the rhetorical reins over to Americans, asking them to describe Clinton, Trump and the whole election in one word each. The responses weren’t exactly glowing — most fell somewhere on the spectrum between creatively disgruntled (e.g., “hornswoggler”) and downright profane (e.g., “clusterfuck”).

We wanted better candidates but none were available this year.

Apparently enough people though Hillary was good enough that she remained ahead of Bernie, though she was never able to hit that special delegate number. Granted, she had the establishment on her side.

OP, glass houses.

(June 10, 2016 at 2:05 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: OP, glass houses.

I did say, it speaks for the American people. Same can't be said for my electorate. So, no. No glass houses in sight.

Saying it's the parties not all Americans doesn't make me feel much better. We have a substantial minority willing to vote for a racist con-man. It's kinda scary actually. I had a long talk with our electrician who is a Trumpkin. He will ignore everything else bases on the mere promise of bringing back industrial jobs to the U.S. He's generally a good guy and easy to work with. I'd guess he's honest and sounds pretty intelligent, yet he'll vote for Trump because a billionaire is obviously a good leader. *sigh*

The default option has always been "who do you want to vote against?"

That's why she needs E. Warren on the ticket

Yes they both suck

The problem is there ARE others to vote for America just choses to ignore them. I'm actually not against Johnson from the Libertarian Party and the people that know about him agree he would be the best pick.