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Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
It's because both parties have lost their way. Independents (small i) are now a plurality at 45% and almost twice the number of either party. The candidates are those wanted by the most engaged of two minority policy groups, republicans and democrats.
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#12
RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
(June 10, 2016 at 3:27 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: The default option has always been "who do you want to vote against?"

That's pretty much the default option in any country. But when you consider both optionsd to be turds, pinching your nose doesn't do the job animimore. You need some kind of gas mask.

Oh, democracy, where have we failed you?
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
Millennials do not like hillary yet she wants our vote instead of running to the left she is running to the right.
Then you have Trump who is running to the left successfully mind you...

now hillary wants party unity.. instead of get this the reality of things pushing hillary to win because she cannot at this point.
Push sanders of all people to be the nominee and actually get a democrat into office rather than taking this huge gamble with hillary.
At either point she could be indicted or you know the president gives her a pardon and even then she is not trustworthy and cannot win
against trump let me be honest here. She cannot win against trump even then there will be people simply not voting for her and she is not
that popular.. id vote for her lesser of two evils and all...
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
(June 10, 2016 at 3:34 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: The problem is there ARE others to vote for America just choses to ignore them. I'm actually not against Johnson from the Libertarian Party and the people that know about him agree he would be the best pick.

You can vote for a guaranteed loser as a protest, I guess.
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
(June 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Alex K Wrote: That's why she needs E. Warren on the ticket Smile

She needs Elizabeth Warren in the senate.  There is a republicunt governor in Massachusetts right now.  Guess who gets to appoint the interim replacement?
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
There is one thing to remember about the vice-presidency and John Nance Garner said it best:  the Vice-Presidency is  "not worth a bucket of warm piss".
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
I don't like either of them. I will not be voting this year.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
(June 10, 2016 at 5:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't like either of them. I will not be voting this year.

I always keep telling that to myself, but not voting amounts to casting a vote for the radicals. Radicals are far more likely to vote and if you give up on your rights, you're pretty much making them stronger.

But I know the feeling of not liking what's on offer. It's all about jumping ones shadow, pinching ones nose and enforcing what little individual influence one has to prevent the bigger evil.
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RE: Congrats America. The people think, both probable candidates are turds
The problem is I don't think there is a bigger evil this time around. Sad
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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