(June 10, 2016 at 5:46 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It is rather a sad state of affairs that USians are going to have to choose between the imperfect and the insane.

Boru

Yes, it is sorta like dating, now that you mention it.

I might vote Green this year. I hate the big two. Libertarianism sounds good on the surface, but most of the believers I've encountered are Ayn Rand wannabes who conveniently forget history while demonstrating a "fuck you, I got mine" attitude. Not what I want to be associated with.

But, yeah, if there's one thing this election cycle has really illustrated, it's how terrible the actual election system is. Primaries vs. caucuses. Deligates vs. superdelegates. A painful process that needlessly runs for 4-5 months, where every step is designed to reduce the value of an individual vote. It's a sad farce. The general election, with winner-take-all (except Maine, I believe) is almost as bad. Gotta keep the gameshow-esque light-up map at any cost, I guess.

(June 10, 2016 at 7:56 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 10, 2016 at 7:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And if Trump wins, it could be the end of American history.

Boru

Trump will save America.  But whoever becomes President will have to deal with a very serious financial crisis.

You mean like he 'saved' Trump Airlines, Trump Pale Ale, Trump: The Game, Trump Taj Mahal/Marina/Plaza Casinos, Trump Magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, GoTrump.com, TrumpNet, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, and Trump Vodka?

Aside from a mania for slapping his name on everything within reach, like some sort of deranged cyborg label-maker, for a man touting his business expertise as a reason that people should vote for him, his impressive record of business failures should make prospective voters run like a frightened deer.

Boru

Voting Hillary is a no brainer and I don't know why anyone would see it as a tough choice

Chooding between two pieces of shit is always a tough choice.

(June 11, 2016 at 1:34 am)KevinM1 Wrote: I might vote Green this year.  I hate the big two. Libertarianism sounds good on the surface, but most of the believers I've encountered are Ayn Rand wannabes who conveniently forget history while demonstrating a "fuck you, I got mine" attitude.  Not what I want to be associated with.

I always vote green, but for Americans it's a tight corner since the winner takes it all. Fat chance of green candidates making it into any position of power, let alone the White House. Let me be presumptuous for a sec. In voting green, you might just help the bigger evil into the saddle. I had this kind of discussion back on fearbush in 2004, when numerous members argued for voting third party. I told them they helped Bush securing his reelection.

Third parties never get any traction if that strategy is followed.

(June 11, 2016 at 11:28 am)abaris Wrote:

(June 11, 2016 at 1:34 am)KevinM1 Wrote: I might vote Green this year.  I hate the big two. Libertarianism sounds good on the surface, but most of the believers I've encountered are Ayn Rand wannabes who conveniently forget history while demonstrating a "fuck you, I got mine" attitude.  Not what I want to be associated with.

I always vote green, but for Americans it's a tight corner since the winner takes it all. Fat chance of green candidates making it into any position of power, let alone the White House. Let me be presumptuous for a sec. In voting green, you might just help the bigger evil into the saddle. I had this kind of discussion back on fearbush in 2004, when numerous members argued for voting third party. I told them they helped Bush securing his reelection.

Trust me, you don't need to tell me how my country's political system works.

(June 11, 2016 at 5:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 10, 2016 at 7:56 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Trump will save America.  But whoever becomes President will have to deal with a very serious financial crisis.

You mean like he 'saved' Trump Airlines, Trump Pale Ale, Trump: The Game, Trump Taj Mahal/Marina/Plaza Casinos, Trump Magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Steaks, GoTrump.com, TrumpNet, Trump Tower Tampa, Trump University, and Trump Vodka?

Aside from a mania for slapping his name on everything within reach, like some sort of deranged cyborg label-maker, for a man touting his business expertise as a reason that people should vote for him, his impressive record of business failures should make prospective voters run like a frightened deer.

Boru

Thanks for posting Trump's extensive experience handling financial setbacks.  We're going to need him when the financial markets collapse in a few months.  Hillary will be like a deer in the headlights.

(June 11, 2016 at 11:01 am)Aegon Wrote: Voting Hillary is a no brainer and I don't know why anyone would see it as a tough choice

Vote for Hillary if you are brainless.