(May 30, 2016 at 11:58 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: The fact at this point is that it doesn't matter whether she would make a similar mistake as president, or whether charges are being filed (which they aren't). The point is that she cannot beat a muck-raker like Trump with this on the table. She just can't. It is party suicide to put her in the ring against that man, even if you, I, and everyone on this forum votes for her. I'm sorry, dude. She's fucked.


That's not why I won't vote for her. I won't vote for her because I will not recognize her as a legitimate political candidate after everything she has done to steal this nomination. I will not vote for somebody who does not respect the vote, no matter who I'm voting against.


Some people may say a write-in vote is a vote for Trump, and those people really can go fuck themselves. Voting is an act of free speech, and nobody gets to tell me what I'm saying with my vote, even if I withhold it because I do not support any candidates.

(May 29, 2016 at 12:10 am)dyresand Wrote:

(May 28, 2016 at 11:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, please tell us what "role" that was.

To put my point bluntly we supported the Syrian rebels because we want to remove Asaad because he wants to play nice with Israel from power
even though that would be dumb idea. So get this the people over there in the middle east do not sleep well at night they don't feel protected
nor safe considering how many civilians were killed so you have people who lost family because of us and other terrorists groups. So yeah 
it would only be a matter of time before the Syrian rebels would betray us they don't trust us at all. To put it like so we have done already enough in 
the middle east we made it the hell hole it is today only to get cheap oil by putting dictators in charge. The our "special" president Bush had
to go and kill the one guy if he was still alive to this day things wouldn't have gotten as bad as they have today. I don't blame the citizens 
of the middle east for hating us at all nor i blame any country that has the us.

(June 12, 2016 at 4:05 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Hillary has my blue ribbon stamp of approval. As for all the criticism she gets, you know, haters just gonna hate I guess.

(June 12, 2016 at 1:31 pm)Mothonis Wrote: So you support lying and corruption,and you dont care about facts

(June 12, 2016 at 9:45 am)Irrational Wrote: Unfortunate, but Hillary is the best option at this point, now that it's absolutely clear Sanders is not going to win.

(June 12, 2016 at 11:24 am)Won2blv Wrote:

(May 30, 2016 at 11:58 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: The fact at this point is that it doesn't matter whether she would make a similar mistake as president, or whether charges are being filed (which they aren't). The point is that she cannot beat a muck-raker like Trump with this on the table. She just can't. It is party suicide to put her in the ring against that man, even if you, I, and everyone on this forum votes for her. I'm sorry, dude. She's fucked.


That's not why I won't vote for her. I won't vote for her because I will not recognize her as a legitimate political candidate after everything she has done to steal this nomination. I will not vote for somebody who does not respect the vote, no matter who I'm voting against.


Some people may say a write-in vote is a vote for Trump, and those people really can go fuck themselves. Voting is an act of free speech, and nobody gets to tell me what I'm saying with my vote, even if I withhold it because I do not support any candidates.

Im just curious, are you a Bernie supporter? I suggest that you do the survey at isidewith.com I found that I'm 91% aligned with Bernie and Jill Stein. And I'm 89% aligned with Hillary. The libertarian candidate and Donny were a lot lower. I way more prefer bernie from and an ideological stand point but Hillary is not a bad 2nd choice for me.

(June 12, 2016 at 3:58 pm)TheRealJoeFish Wrote:

(June 12, 2016 at 11:24 am)Won2blv Wrote: Im just curious, are you a Bernie supporter? I suggest that you do the survey at isidewith.com I found that I'm 91% aligned with Bernie and Jill Stein. And I'm 89% aligned with Hillary. The libertarian candidate and Donny were a lot lower. I way more prefer bernie from and an ideological stand point but Hillary is not a bad 2nd choice for me.

This is an important point. Hillary's *policies* are very close to Bernie's (or, at least, *far* closer than anyone else's). People who vote on the content of a politician's beliefs and message will gladly vote for one if the other is no longer running. People who care more about the "I support X" part than the "because X will be good for America" part are, well... not thinking things through, I'll say, charitably.

(June 12, 2016 at 4:34 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Hillary's stated policies may be closer to Bernie's, but she's also dishonest. I'd like to think she's better than Trump, but really they're both corrupt liars. So it's hard to say. Hillary's sleazy, and Trump is insane.