I posted a comment to the following article:

http://www.umc.org/what-we-believe/whats...-the-house

The comment was moderated; within 8 minutes, the UMC staff deleted my comment.  Here it is:

Quote:I am an atheist, as are some 90% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences, and while my intellectual and educational credentials are nowhere near those of the NAS membership, the scientific method leads to atheism, as the atheistic stance would be the "null hypothesis" that would need to be adjudicated/disproved based upon scientific and empirical evidence. Few accord fairies, elves, unicorns and the FSM the same faith-based status as Yahweh, the god of the Old Testament, or even old Saint Nick. Why profess belief in some entity for which there is no empirical evidence greater than that of alien abductions, for which there is a plethora of testimonial evidence? Of course, do not confuse "hope" with "faith"; as an atheist, I find the prospect of an eternal, blissful afterlife to be enthralling; so did Carl Sagan, a committed agnostic atheist (which, technically, I am, also.) But, hope does not always equate with reality (read David Mills for an entertaining story of a would-be lotto winner), and if death, in fact, is the annihilation of human consciousness, then lying to oneself about that cannot possibly be healthy; after all, who wants to end life with a lie as opposed to the truth, even if the latter is not the "absolute truth"? After all, if there is a god, does he/she/it prefer honest seekers as opposed to lying sycophants who have embraced one religion out of perhaps an infinite number that exist on this world, and perhaps, others? We should expect more out of God; let him/her/it heal a 1,000 amputees of his/her/its choosing and then come back and talk to me about faith. Until then, belief in God is no different than belief in fairies or invisible pink unicorns.

Are you seriously surprised?

(June 24, 2016 at 1:59 am)Incognito Wrote: Are you seriously surprised?

I thought that the UMC was more open, and believed in free speech!

Why?

It does seem a little weird for them to object, considering the enormous level of scripture cherry picking already 'consecrated' (LOL!!) in their cafeteria of belief.

I don't know why you posted such a confrontational comment, when the article and ensuing comments are as respectful as they are. I'm not a big fan of deleting stuff, but the article was pretty much just supportive of parents who don't understand why their children leave "the faith" and don't know what to do about it. I don't understand what you were trying to accomplish by posting that comment... it wasn't even relevant to the topic.

You get an A for effort, Jehanne.

But fuckwits will always react with repression.  It's what their fucking god teaches them.

I've gotten away with a ton of shit on christianforums.com

I've said that the Bible was written by racist, sexist, genocidal, slave-driving rapists many times until one moderator seemingly went rogue and PMed me in a way that was different from other mod PMs. I ignored her warning and continued to say it when the topic arose and nothing happened.

I've said other shit too that I can't think of off the top of my head but is surely 100x worse than what you said there. But I don't say stuff for shock value, I just tell it like it is. I mean, I figure that most of the Christards there are the type that think political correctness is utter garbage, so I naturally assume that I don't have to be religiously correct when discussing their bullshit Bible. They want to refuse the right of a transgender woman to call herself a woman, they say things like, "The dude was born a man, I calls em like I sees em," but then when you fucking lay out the shit that God has done just in the book of Joshua alone then all of a sudden you have to be respectful of other cultures, LOOOOOL.

They're much less tolerant of when I call people out for lying. But I mean WTF is wrong with exposing the lies of an apologist? That's what we do. That's how we roll.

If not for lies, what would the apologists have ?

(June 24, 2016 at 2:03 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: If not for lies, what would the apologists have ?

Nothing   all they have is lies it keeps the money flowing unless people think for themselves
and when that happens they get angry and spout the hell fire nonsense to keep the money sink flowing.