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UK to leave EU
#31
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 2:39 am)Lucanus Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 2:31 am)Alex K Wrote: Well, our vacation plans just got significantly cheaper...

You just come to Italy bro, cheap as fuck shitholes on the Ionian sea! With Greek ruins nearby, if you don't mind the swamp they're buried in

Swamps, seas, greek ruins.....sounds like Tarpon Springs.  How cheap we talking?  Wink
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#32
RE: UK to leave EU
It's the political equivalent of "It's okay to lie if it's for Jesus."
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#33
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 2:37 am)Tiberius Wrote: It can go both ways. Weed is being legalized by referendums. Sometimes the population knows better than the government on civil rights issues.

I guess I just don't see marijuana legalization as a civil rights issue. But, I do agree that the referendum is an important political tool. And I agree that it should never be used to decide extremely complex political/economic/societal issues.
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#34
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 2:54 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: I guess I just don't see marijuana legalization as a civil rights issue.

But it is, since it's about what you are doing to and with your own body.
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#35
RE: UK to leave EU
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Brexit

I love RationalWiki.
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#36
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RationalWiki.com Wrote:One point that the eurosceptics frequently make is that British 'sovereignty' could be 'reclaimed' if we left the EU. Eurosceptics talk about how EU courts override British courts despite the fact that you can't have an international court if a local court can overrule it, and that's kind of the point. The UK has already been granted exceptions to EU rules in many categories like participation Schengen Area and the Eurozone. While "claiming back our sovereignty" may make a good soundbite, it doesn't really mean anything. The fear of Europeans having a say in how the UK is governed may also have some roots in europhobia. Another thing the Brexiteers conveniently forget is that the countries with free trade agreements with the EU (Norway, Iceland and Switzerland) but no membership have to accept the vast majority of EU regulations - including oft-maligned agricultural rules on the curvature of bananas - in order to gain access to the common market but have no say in them. The same would happen to Britain: Either they have to accept European rules or they can forget selling their products across the Channel. Not exactly what sovereignty looks like.
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#37
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 2:39 am)Lucanus Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 2:31 am)Alex K Wrote: Well, our vacation plans just got significantly cheaper...

You just come to Italy bro, cheap as fuck shitholes on the Ionian sea! With Greek ruins nearby, if you don't mind the swamp they're buried in

Italy will always be German's love #1, don't worry. It's built into our souls Smile
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#38
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 2:45 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 2:39 am)Lucanus Wrote: You just come to Italy bro, cheap as fuck shitholes on the Ionian sea! With Greek ruins nearby, if you don't mind the swamp they're buried in

Swamps, seas, greek ruins.....sounds like Tarpon Springs.  How cheap we talking?  Wink

Cheap as in I have a room to spare at my house and can cook for you
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#39
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 2:20 am)Lucanus Wrote:
(June 24, 2016 at 2:01 am)abaris Wrote: No, they won't. I think, you're entirely wrong, Lucanus. This may well end in yet another global crash with London being ground zero. The extreme right will be encouraged by this, since they always thrive on fear. People who didn't ask the complicated questions in the past won't suddenly start to ask them now.

I dunno man, "hey Britain is out of the EU why is their economy like shit?" Doesn't seem like too much of a complicated question.

Either that or I put too much faith in humanity as usual


Especially if Scotland gets its freedom, rejoins the EU and does particularly well because it's America's stepping stone into Europe and because all the EU nationals living in the UK atm move up here.
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#40
RE: UK to leave EU
(June 24, 2016 at 3:19 am)Mathilda Wrote: Especially if Scotland gets its freedom, rejoins the EU and does particularly well because it's America's stepping stone into Europe and because all the EU nationals living in the UK atm move up here.

That's the one part of the show I really would enjoy. The South living in it's self elected poverty bubble and the North thriving. Maybe reactivate Hadrian's wall, Trump style.
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