Quote:For Hitler, the "evil" was the Jews; for Obama, the "evil" is guns.

Obama is right.  Hitler was wrong.

(June 24, 2016 at 6:36 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: So, you DON'T need a gun to protect yourself? You're NOT vulnerable to fear mongering and induction of paranoia? 

Could have fooled me.

I'm a realist. The bad guys have guns, it's only proper that the good guys should have equal defensive capabilities. There's a big difference between living in fear and being realistic about the world we live in. Preparedness does not equal fear.

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(June 24, 2016 at 6:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:For Hitler, the "evil" was the Jews; for Obama, the "evil" is guns.

Obama is right.  Hitler was wrong.

Both are wrong.

Quote: The bad guys have guns,

So do the gun nut morons who are constantly shooting someone or something by "accident."*




* Which seems to be the word they prefer to criminal negligence!

(June 24, 2016 at 6:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: The bad guys have guns,

So do the gun nut morons who are constantly shooting someone or something by "accident."*




* Which seems to be the word they prefer to criminal negligence!

I'd lump those irresponsible fuckers into the group of "bad guys". FYI.

(June 24, 2016 at 6:45 pm)Spirian Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 6:36 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: So, you DON'T need a gun to protect yourself? You're NOT vulnerable to fear mongering and induction of paranoia? 

Could have fooled me.

I'm a realist. The bad guys have guns, it's only proper that the good guys should have equal defensive capabilities. There's a big difference between living in fear and being realistic about the world we live in. Preparedness does not equal fear.

Yeah, right. 

(June 24, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 6:45 pm)Spirian Wrote: I'm a realist. The bad guys have guns, it's only proper that the good guys should have equal defensive capabilities. There's a big difference between living in fear and being realistic about the world we live in. Preparedness does not equal fear.

Yeah, right. 

Let me guess, you ride a bicycle on the freeway, don't you? Oh, you don't? Why? Is it because you'd be surrounded by heavy fast moving vehicles while completely unguarded? I bet you take a car on the freeway, don't you? Yep, I'm going with that. You don't ride a bicycle on the freeway because you'd be unprepared for such an environment. You're a smart one you are... for taking the more protective vehicle into such an environment. Very smart indeed.

(June 24, 2016 at 6:50 pm)Spirian Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 6:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So do the gun nut morons who are constantly shooting someone or something by "accident."*




* Which seems to be the word they prefer to criminal negligence!

I'd lump those irresponsible fuckers into the group of "bad guys". FYI.

Except until the goes goes off by "accident" they are L-ARGOs*


(Law-Abiding Responsible Gun Owners)

My position is that anyone with a gun who dies without ever having had his gun go off "accidentally" earns the title of L-ARGO.

Until they die, they are just an accident waiting to happen.

(June 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm)Spirian Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Yeah, right. 

Let me guess, you ride a bicycle on the freeway, don't you? Oh, you don't? Why? Is it because you'd be surrounded by heavy fast moving vehicles while completely unguarded? I bet you take a car on the freeway, don't you? Yep, I'm going with that. You don't ride a bicycle on the freeway because you'd be unprepared for such an environment. You're a smart one you are... for taking the more protective vehicle into such an environment. Very smart indeed.

Bicycle equals guns now? You need a helmet. All the time.

 Disagreement on this topic is expected. 

I promise not to shoot myself on purpose or by accident, and I vow to only shoot those who would desire to take my life. That's all I will offer, and I think that's a legitimate resolution.

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(June 24, 2016 at 7:07 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote:

(June 24, 2016 at 6:58 pm)Spirian Wrote: Let me guess, you ride a bicycle on the freeway, don't you? Oh, you don't? Why? Is it because you'd be surrounded by heavy fast moving vehicles while completely unguarded? I bet you take a car on the freeway, don't you? Yep, I'm going with that. You don't ride a bicycle on the freeway because you'd be unprepared for such an environment. You're a smart one you are... for taking the more protective vehicle into such an environment. Very smart indeed.

Bicycle equals guns now? You need a helmet. All the time.

And you might try taking off the tinfoil hat? Is allegory completely lost on you?

(June 24, 2016 at 7:08 pm)Spirian Wrote:  Disagreement on this topic is expected. 

I promise not to shoot myself on purpose or by accident, and I vow to only shoot those who would desire to take my life. That's all I will offer, and I think that's a legitimate resolution.

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(June 24, 2016 at 7:07 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: Bicycle equals guns now? You need a helmet. All the time.

And you might try taking off the tinfoil hat? Is allegory completely lost on you?

No, but wildly disparate ones aren't very interesting.