I think it raises some pretty interesting questions about what is legal.

On the other hand it's kind of boring just because I don't think many women are dying to show their tits outside of area 69, I don't think many men or women really genuinely care about the issue.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:52 pm)Heatheness Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, if pics of shirtless men were barred from the Forum, you'd belt up about this?  Because if that's what it takes, I'll start a petition right now.

Boru

Absolutely no one is asking you to participate in this discussion. That you continue to complain about having a thread that you can but refuse to ignore, is on you.

Great non-answer.

Question: Which rule change would you prefer: That shirtless men be barred, or that women be permitted to be topless?

Boru

(June 25, 2016 at 9:28 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: You're literally the only person who has an issue here.

Ahh, an appeal to popularity. How does that work for you when arguing with a theist?

We will discuss it.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:52 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think it raises some pretty interesting questions about what is legal.

On the other hand it's kind of boring just because I don't think many women are dying to show their tits outside of area 69, I don't think many men or women really genuinely care about the issue.

That's okay. They may not and if it's boring you know the solution for that.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:54 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: We will discuss it.

Really? REALLY?

Originally I read the title of this thread as "Nudity is it sexiest in this forum?"

(June 25, 2016 at 9:47 pm)Heatheness Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:29 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: 'Sexist' is a really strong word. Learn who your allies are. I'm on your side. I don't make the laws in America and otherwise. We are an open forum and Tibs ultimately is liable for any lawsuit from some litigious parent who says we subjected their child to lewd content.

As a staff we can discuss making the rules more equitable--I wouldn't dismiss that out of hand. I don't know where everyone stands on it.

I don't think the forum as a whole would be for it.

That "equality" bit is my point. I don't care that female nudity is not allowed. I agree that young posters should not be subjected to nudity but what I don't agree is that men be given a pass.

Here's why:

Men have always been in control of sexuality of both sexes until recently. Men determined what was and was not sexually arousing and what was and was not acceptable for public view. Women's opinions were not even considered and neither were their desires.

Now women are supposed to be equal and we are supposed to in control of our own sexuality and be treated equally and here we are saying it's acceptable for men to still determine what is sexual and what is not by saying "men want to see women's breast as sexual so therefore they must be banned. But men don't see other men's breasts as sexual so that okay to see them. That is wrong.

I am not talking about law that restricts, I know what the law allows and what it doesn't (though this bs has been challenged in court and won for women to mow topless some years ago) what I am asking is for the forum to say "we realize the legal question is or may not be fair in it's allowances so we will be fair in our restrictions. That is the point I want to make.

Thanks for the response.

Men have never determined what is or isn't sexually arousing.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:56 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:54 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: We will discuss it.

Really? REALLY?

What is the harm in discussing something? Are you so authoritarian that even a discussion about it is too much?

(June 25, 2016 at 9:26 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Heatheness Wrote: Sure it is. They make the rules, they are in charge of enforcing them. They can enforce them equally.

In western society female breasts are generally viewed as more sexual than male breasts.

So to keep in accordance with things like child pornography laws and pornography laws in general this website would be shut down if all of a sudden the owners of this website decided to allow girls under 16 showing their tits or allowed anyone of any age to see girls tits all around the forum.

On the other hand there's no need to not allow male breasts to be shown to be in accordance with the law.

If you're offended by male breasts then you'll just have to skip past them quickly and avoid looking, if you're just coming up with a hypothetical situation in order to complain about things being sexist then you'll be better off complaining to higher powers than this forum about laws that are in place that this forum abides by.

I never stated that I was offended by anything except inequality.