(July 6, 2016 at 9:49 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you take water and you turn it into ice you can well call it matter as much as you like.
The consciousness in that water had a certain degree of consciousness but by turning it into ice
the consciousness decreases to the level of matter so of course you can say that ice is matter.
At the same time if you turn a rock into ground and if you use that ground to grow a plant then
that rock that now turned into a plant increase her consciousness.
You can play with all these elements and change them if you want but as far as they are water and not ice they are water and as far as a rock is a rock and not a plant it is a rock.
You got to take them as they are now not what they may be if.
Right?  

OMG... the level of stupid here has now reached levels we never knew existed.

Forget about the proof that was shown to him about matter. This babbling idiot actually believes that water has consciousness.
Fucker should really lay off the drugs.

This thread is another win for LittleRik! Well done matey.

I already covered these points in an earlier video.

https://youtu.be/u2mRBcmaZ54

(July 6, 2016 at 10:59 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(July 6, 2016 at 10:48 am)Little Rik Wrote: Imbecile.  

Evolution equal to progress.
Change doesn't necessary equal to progress.
There never was any progress in the material-physical arena and there will never be for the simple fact that this material-physical universe is balanced by both positive and negative.
Progress can only be achieved in the spiritual arena by evolving our consciousness therefore real evolution is confined to our consciousness alone.
Biological changes have nothing to do with evolution.  

Evolution (biological evolution) has nothing whatsoever to do with progress; it's about fitness and reproductive advantage and the changes in gene frequency over a population -- nothing more.

Change (cultural, technological, etc.) can be about progress but not necessarily. Your insistence on misusing the word 'evolution' and your penchant for idiotic analogies is not my problem, moron. Fuck off.

Double imbecile.  

Let us see the real meaning of evolution.


1) the gradual development of something.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, progression, expansion, extension, unfolding; transformation, adaptation, modification, revision, reworking, reconstruction, recasting, change;

2) Evolution - definition of evolution by The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evolution
a. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid...on+meaning

Biological changes have really nothing to do with evolution.
A change can also be for the worse so the word evolution for a change is definitively misplaced.
Evolution equal to progress.
If you don't like too bad.  

(July 6, 2016 at 11:02 am)Whateverist the White Wrote:

(July 6, 2016 at 9:37 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I'd just like to say my imagination can kick your imagination's ass any day of the week, Rikmeister.  I'm imagining that all that kool-aid you drank from that swami guy is the source of all your ideas.  See how my imagination just assigned your imagined world to an inferior role in my own?  That's pretty much what your imagination attempts to do to ours every day on these forums.  No real harm really, otherwise we'd probably both be banned.

I take your non-response as confirmation of my assertion.  Don't worry though.  I won't lord it over you just because my imagination put the smack down on yours.  You fought a good fight.  You can't help it if you were fighting out of your weight class.  I still think your imagination is cute, in a girlyman sort of way.

I usually have no problem with answering anyone post as far as they make some sense even when they are wrong but when someone post a plethora of personal insults then I don't see why I should bother.
Right?  

(July 7, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(July 6, 2016 at 10:59 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Evolution (biological evolution) has nothing whatsoever to do with progress; it's about fitness and reproductive advantage and the changes in gene frequency over a population -- nothing more.

Change (cultural, technological, etc.) can be about progress but not necessarily. Your insistence on misusing the word 'evolution' and your penchant for idiotic analogies is not my problem, moron. Fuck off.

Double imbecile.  

Let us see the real meaning of evolution.


1) the gradual development of something.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, progression, expansion, extension, unfolding; transformation, adaptation, modification, revision, reworking, reconstruction, recasting, change;

2) Evolution - definition of evolution by The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evolution
a. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid...on+meaning

Biological changes have really nothing to do with evolution.
A change can also be for the worse so the word evolution for a change is definitively misplaced.
Evolution equal to progress.
If you don't like too bad.  

Try for once to get your shit together, Rik. I entered this thread after your idiotic claim that evolution didn't pertain to populations. In that context the discussion was about biological evolution, and that is the context in which my remarks were germane. Yes, 'evolution' has other applications, just as 'theory' outside a scientific context does, but that's not what I was addressing and you know it. So stick your dictionary far enough up your ass that you can read it with your third eye (that would be the brown one, in case you're confused).

(July 7, 2016 at 2:59 am)quip Wrote:

(July 4, 2016 at 8:12 am)Little Rik Wrote: Humans are made of matter, water, energy, air, space......and.....mind-consciousness.
Universe is made of matter, water, energy, air, space and.........guess what?  

Something missing in your analysis?  

Try to think folks, maybe one day you will get there.  

In case you still can't get it LR is here 24/7 for private tuition (free of charge).  

Is there a reason you parsed the two?  Do you believe that humans are especially sundered from the universe?

Consciousness and energy are the two sides of the same sheet.
They can never be separate.
Ever.
All the elements that made up the universe (space, air, energy-light, water and matter) follow the same logic.
People see energy in the elements that made up the universe but they rarely see consciousness in it.
Energy can not be destroyed.
Even physic tell us that so also consciousness can not be destroyed but this is a concept quite difficult for atheists to understand.  

(July 7, 2016 at 9:50 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(July 7, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: Double imbecile.  

Let us see the real meaning of evolution.


1) the gradual development of something.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, progression, expansion, extension, unfolding; transformation, adaptation, modification, revision, reworking, reconstruction, recasting, change;

2) Evolution - definition of evolution by The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evolution
a. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid...on+meaning

Biological changes have really nothing to do with evolution.
A change can also be for the worse so the word evolution for a change is definitively misplaced.
Evolution equal to progress.
If you don't like too bad.  

Try for once to get your shit together, Rik. I entered this thread after your idiotic claim that evolution didn't pertain to populations. In that context the discussion was about biological evolution, and that is the context in which my remarks were germane. Yes, 'evolution' has other applications, just as 'theory' outside a scientific context does, but that's not what I was addressing and you know it. So stick your dictionary far enough up your ass that you can read it with your third eye (that would be the brown one, in case you're confused).

Imbecile, all I try to tell you is that to use the word evolution for a change is wrong.
Nothing more nothing less.
Now you can well jump in the lake if you don't like it.  

(July 7, 2016 at 9:59 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(July 7, 2016 at 9:50 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Try for once to get your shit together, Rik. I entered this thread after your idiotic claim that evolution didn't pertain to populations. In that context the discussion was about biological evolution, and that is the context in which my remarks were germane. Yes, 'evolution' has other applications, just as 'theory' outside a scientific context does, but that's not what I was addressing and you know it. So stick your dictionary far enough up your ass that you can read it with your third eye (that would be the brown one, in case you're confused).

Imbecile, all I try to tell you is that to use the word evolution for a change is wrong.
Nothing more nothing less.
Now you can well jump in the lake if you don't like it.  

Demons know of God? Yes. Do they care? They hate Him. Why do you think that people will wish to serve God, even if you prove them his existance. Wouldnt there be an answer "Fuck God for creating this miserable world".

(July 7, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: Double imbecile.  

Let us see the real meaning of evolution.


1) the gradual development of something.
"the forms of written languages undergo constant evolution"
synonyms: development, advancement, growth, rise, progress, progression, expansion, extension, unfolding; transformation, adaptation, modification, revision, reworking, reconstruction, recasting, change;

2) Evolution - definition of evolution by The Free Dictionary
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evolution
a. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid...on+meaning

You cherry picked two definitions that you liked.

(July 7, 2016 at 9:27 am)Little Rik Wrote: Biological changes have really nothing to do with evolution.

Really? Because the very dictionary you just quoted says otherwise:
2. Biology
a. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, often resulting in the development of new species. The mechanisms of evolution include natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, mutation, migration, and genetic drift.
b. The historical development of a related group of organisms; phylogeny.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evolution