Very much doubt it, but we'll see.

And say we do get independence, Sturgeon is fucking nuts if she thinks the UK is going to let her keep the pound and retain an open border between Scotland and England.

SNP supporters are on a different fucking planet.

(July 8, 2016 at 9:49 am)robvalue Wrote: Scotland is outta here. And I don't blame them one bit. If we do end up canning ourselves, I'd give a probability of 90% that Scotland will surgically remove us as the deadweight we are.

FFS, some of the hyperbole from remainers is genuinely hysterical.

Besides, oil has plummeted in price since the last sweaty referendum, so the outcome may not be as clear cut as it would first appear.

The thing is though, voting out of the UK is one thing, it would then take years for them to actually join the EU.

(July 8, 2016 at 9:53 am)Bella Morte Wrote: And say we do get independence, Sturgeon is fucking nuts if she thinks the UK is going to let her keep the pound and retain an open border between Scotland and England.

SNP supporters are on a different fucking planet.

Yeah, imagine for a moment if rabid nationalism won out against common sense, leading to a country's exit from an economic and political union, damn whatever consequences it would cause.

What a disaster that would be, eh?

(July 8, 2016 at 10:02 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:

(July 8, 2016 at 9:49 am)robvalue Wrote: Scotland is outta here. And I don't blame them one bit. If we do end up canning ourselves, I'd give a probability of 90% that Scotland will surgically remove us as the deadweight we are.

FFS, some of the hyperbole from remainers is genuinely hysterical.

Besides, oil has plummeted in price since the last sweaty referendum, so the outcome may not be as clear cut as it would first appear.

The thing is though, voting out of the UK is one thing, it would then take years for them to actually join the EU.

That's something the SNP clowns don't seem to realise. Scotland is, and always will be, better off in the United Kingdom. I doubt that Scottish Independence will happen.

(July 8, 2016 at 10:02 am)Iroscato Wrote:

(July 8, 2016 at 9:53 am)Bella Morte Wrote: And say we do get independence, Sturgeon is fucking nuts if she thinks the UK is going to let her keep the pound and retain an open border between Scotland and England.

SNP supporters are on a different fucking planet.

Yeah, imagine for a moment if rabid nationalism won out against common sense, leading to a country's exit from an economic and political union, damn whatever consequences it would cause.

What a disaster that would be, eh?

Rabid nationalism.....ffs.

(July 8, 2016 at 10:02 am)Iroscato Wrote:

(July 8, 2016 at 9:53 am)Bella Morte Wrote: And say we do get independence, Sturgeon is fucking nuts if she thinks the UK is going to let her keep the pound and retain an open border between Scotland and England.

SNP supporters are on a different fucking planet.

Yeah, imagine for a moment if rabid nationalism won out against common sense, leading to a country's exit from an economic and political union, damn whatever consequences it would cause.

What a disaster that would be, eh?

(July 8, 2016 at 4:55 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Rather than reading and responding to one or two posts, try going back through the thread where you can read my reasons for voting out.

You invested money in the stock markets, thus you can expect your money to either increase or decrease depending on a variety of different factors.

Just to be perfectly clear; if you think short term economics and you losing a paltry couple of thousand fucking dollars would have changed my vote, in what was the biggest referendum of my lifetime, you're sorely fucking mistaken pal.

Hope that helps.

Sure, it helps explains why the world is such a shitty place, because people like you can't seem to grasp the bigger implications of your actions, nor do you seem to be able to put yourself in anyone else's shoes and give a damn about how you affect other people.

It also helps me understand that people will take big risks that affect everyone without fully understanding the ramifications of that risk, as evidenced by your comments that no one else has a vested interest in this and you "guess" that everything will be fine.

I don't claim to know what is going to happen after this referendum, but what I do know, given your statements, is that you clearly didn't think this thing through and don't have the first clue as to what you've actually done. You may have very well led us into another global recession, yet you sit here arrogantly proclaiming that everyone else should just shut their fucking mouths and accept your decision while you clearly demonstrate that you lack the understanding to have made a proper choice on this issue. Well, tough shit, buddy. I can and will call you out on your bullshit reasoning when given the chance, perhaps in the naive attempt to convince you to think things through in the future.

Just to be perfectly clear, you can't ignorantly take such a huge risk with other people's livelihood and expect them to just stay silent as if you have the right to just do whatever the fuck you want without anyone else speaking their mind about it.

Hope that helps.

(July 8, 2016 at 10:49 am)Faith No More Wrote:

(July 8, 2016 at 4:55 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: Rather than reading and responding to one or two posts, try going back through the thread where you can read my reasons for voting out.

You invested money in the stock markets, thus you can expect your money to either increase or decrease depending on a variety of different factors.

Just to be perfectly clear; if you think short term economics and you losing a paltry couple of thousand fucking dollars would have changed my vote, in what was the biggest referendum of my lifetime, you're sorely fucking mistaken pal.

Hope that helps.

Sure, it helps explains why the world is such a shitty place, because people like you can't seem to grasp the bigger implications of your actions, nor do you seem to be able to put yourself in anyone else's shoes and give a damn about how you affect other people.  

It also helps me understand that people will take big risks that affect everyone without fully understanding the ramifications of that risk, as evidenced by your comments that no one else has a vested interest in this and you "guess" that everything will be fine.

I don't claim to know what is going to happen after this referendum, but what I do know, given your statements, is that you clearly didn't think this thing through and don't have the first clue as to what you've actually done.  You may have very well led us into another global recession, yet you sit here arrogantly proclaiming that everyone else should just shut their fucking mouths and accept your decision while you clearly demonstrate that you lack the understanding to have made a proper choice on this issue.  Well, tough shit, buddy.  I can and will call you out on your bullshit reasoning when given the chance, perhaps in the naive attempt to convince you to think things through in the future.

Just to be perfectly clear, you can't ignorantly take such a huge risk with other people's livelihood and expect them to just stay silent as if you have the right to just do whatever the fuck you want without anyone else speaking their mind about it.

Hope that helps.

OK, just stop strawmanning arguments in to fit your preconceived ideas about those who voted out of the EU.  And stop your whinging about being told to shut up........where have I told anybody to just "shut their fucking mouths."  Seems to me you're making my position up for me.  Given your apparent level of knowledge on the subject, I'll pass and make my own mind up, thanking you.

The word "guess" was used in response to more hyperbole around the future of the UK economy.  And yes, it was a guess, as that is what even the best economists do.  They fucking guess.  What word would you rather?

This may be very difficult for you to grasp, but I, and many other people like me, really did think it through.

SofaKingHigh dateline=' Wrote: This may be very difficult for you to grasp, but I, and many other people like me, really did think it through.

But you couldn't have, because you weren't even fully aware of who would be affected.