They';re not in your mind, but why would they be?  They -are- on the minds of older voters, who probably see recent events as a return to the bad old days, unintentionally omitting all the time in between which is -your- point of reference.  Conveniently, this circumscribes the locus of your shared mis-perception.

So we're 0/2 now...aren't we? Onerous regulations aren't crushing the little guy, and getting out from under said regulations wont help the little guy....you're not unsafe, it's not the worst it's been or particularly bad by any long reaching point of reference.

So, who told you this stuff, again, and why did you vote for their ticket?

(July 27, 2016 at 2:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: it's not the worst it's been or particularly bad by any long reaching point of reference.

And yet France is in a State of Emergency due to terrorism. Keep talking shit mate.

I didn't realize that you'd voted for France to leave the EU for those reasons.  You wouldn't be the only person to have voted for Brexit due to a misunderstanding of what it was.  

(July 27, 2016 at 2:51 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 27, 2016 at 2:07 pm)Rhythm Wrote: it's not the worst it's been or particularly bad by any long reaching point of reference.

And yet France is in a State of Emergency due to terrorism. Keep talking shit mate.

And that is irrefutable proof that you don't know what you are talking about Napo. Damn. You grow dumber with age? Honest question.

(July 20, 2016 at 12:50 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36834045

Bad news for science.

My fiancé has part of her microbiology research funded by EU money. Still no idea what will happen to it. Though I would suspect that, a few caveats aside, funding will continue as the UK has one of, if not the largest science base in the EU in terms of people, output and relatively liberal legislation. I'm sure a way will be found to continue the cash for investment, it just depends on what we have to give so to speak in return.

I feel like as an ex researcher in local UK politics and an accountant I should have more to say about this whole topic, but I just don't. Sure everything will be fine eventually.

(July 27, 2016 at 3:35 pm)LastPoet Wrote: And that is irrefutable proof that you don't know what you are talking about Napo. Damn. You grow dumber with age? Honest question.

Instead of actually using an argument or evidence to prove someone wrong, let's just call them stupid and use ad Homs.

(July 27, 2016 at 3:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I didn't realize that you'd voted for France to leave the EU for those reasons.  You wouldn't be the only person to have voted for Brexit due to a misunderstanding of what it was.  

I don't know whether you say things sometimes and they make more sense in your head or I'm literally just on a different wavelength altogether.

1. What are you talking about voting for France to leave the EU for?

2. You seem to be assuming my reasons for voting for Brexit were based on a misunderstanding. If you can firstly determine that I placed my vote on this issue for the reason you claim, and then explain why it was a misunderstanding to do so, that'd be great. Thanks.

(July 25, 2016 at 7:33 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 25, 2016 at 6:04 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Deregulators love small businesses, right up until it is time to fuck those businesspeople up the arse with deregulation.

How does one fuck up a businesspeople up the arse with deregulation? I'm curious.

Because removing regulations gives a bigger advantage to the big boys relative to what they would have in a more heavily regulated market. For example a big reason why small stores are increasingly rare is because the rules governing the maximum floor space in supermarkets was very much loosened, along with rules prohibiting loss leader products. The big supermarkets were able to take advantage of these two deregulations to crowd out a lot of high street and local shops despite there being no competitive advantage for most people to shop at the big supermarkets (especially when you factor in transport costs, the slight increase in prices in smaller shops being more than offset for most people by the cost of petrol to get to a supermarket). This contraction in the market also had a knockon effect for producers with, for example, UK farmers now getting much less than the cost of produce for what they sell to the supermarkets (offset only by CAP payments, and then only in part).

(July 25, 2016 at 12:17 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(July 25, 2016 at 5:58 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: I'm guessing the Daily Heil with its still continuing support for the BUF and NSDAP.

Sorry about the Guardian/The Sun comparison. It should have been the Guardian and The Daily Heil. Polar opposites. Daily Heil for the extreme right, the guardian for the extreme left. 

I don't think that in all it's long and very occasionally distinguished history anybody has called the Liberal Party left wing or even centre-left. You deceive yourself in thinking the Grauniad was ever a left wing paper. It's constituency was ever the free-market, socially progressive wing of the Liberals.

(July 25, 2016 at 5:59 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 25, 2016 at 1:00 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The guardian does have the benefit of actually containing news and properly researched articles, not just vapid rants that appeal to the lowest common denominator.

I'll just leave this here...

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Don't you think before posting a picture on here, it'd be a good idea to practise photoshop until you become competent using it?