(July 31, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Bigotry is bigotry and it exists in all cultures I know of.

Don't bother. It's the usual shtick to make them feel better. Baby pointing fingers and yelling Johnny did it too. And nevermind it's extremely rare that Johnny actually does it too, as opposed to butt hurt baby.

Oh abaris, you never fail to make me laugh.

(July 31, 2016 at 4:51 pm)abaris Wrote:

(July 31, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Bigotry is bigotry and it exists in all cultures I know of.

Don't bother. It's the usual shtick to make them feel better. Baby pointing fingers and yelling Johnny did it too. And nevermind it's extremely rare that Johnny actually does it too, as opposed to butt hurt baby.

I know the difference, and I get what you're saying, but it bears mention.

(July 31, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Oh abaris, you never fail to make me laugh.

Joke's on Robert, actually. But, as usual, you did your own contribution with that ridiculous thread on vermin being thrown at a restaurant. Certainly on the same scale as attacking people in the streets because they look different or don't fit the nationalist bubble.

(July 31, 2016 at 10:57 am)RobertE Wrote:

(July 31, 2016 at 10:53 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Nope. That's just something racists tell themselves.

You didn't respond to the rest of my post, or do they call it quote mining?. If an Australian called me a "pommy", would he or she then be called a racist? If you answer no, then you are clearly cherry-picking what are pejorative and what are clearly acceptable according to your own standards.

I am guilty of calling the English pommys.
I'm also guilty of calling Americans yanks and the New Zealanders kiwis.
It's traditional in Australia to call our friends names and these are our best friends.
It's like, we know these guys so well we can get away with being cheeky.
It's a fine line though. I once accused my late grandma of being racist and she said, 'I am not, I always say hello to the ching chong chinaman when he walks past my front yard.'

Old people being racist is strangely endearing. My great aunt once commented on a black professor being interviewed on the TV with "Ooh, he's clever for a blackie!" in genuine admiration.
I didn't know whether to laugh or facepalm. Being British, I chose instead to loudly announce I was making a cuppa

(July 31, 2016 at 3:49 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Lot of nonsense.

If you and robert are just going to disclaim official statistics as nonsense, then this entire discussion is kinda pointless....

(July 31, 2016 at 6:23 pm)Little lunch Wrote: I am guilty of calling the English pommys.
I'm also guilty of calling Americans yanks and the New Zealanders kiwis.
It's traditional in Australia to call our friends names and these are our best friends.
It's like, we know these guys so well we can get away with being cheeky.

It's a matter of context. Many words which used to be, or still are offensive can be used as terms of endearment among people, who have no reason to suspect each other of ill will. Friends can call one other "cunt", even though if you used the same word against a stranger, you may well be looking at the business end of a fist. Black people get to use the n-word, openly homosexual guys can jokingly refer to themselves as "queens", "queers", or "fags" without causing much upset - because no one thinks they're trying to insult their own group (even though sometimes they might). I don't believe words like "kiwi" have any negative connotations anyway, while others - like "pommy" have lost their original meaning to the point, where pretty much no one can explain, what the word actually mean, or where it came from.

(July 31, 2016 at 6:23 pm)Little lunch Wrote: It's a fine line though. I once accused my late grandma of being racist and she said, 'I am not, I always say hello to the ching chong chinaman when he walks past my front yard.'

Yeah, well - that's the "benevolent" kind of racism. It comes from ignorance and old timey propaganda, rather than hatred; people who say such things often have no idea, that what they're saying can be insulting, or factually wrong. I see that a lot in people from my country of origin - Poland, where there are virtually no racial minorities to speak of, so people's idea of what Africans, or Asians are like comes from old movies and nursery rhymes.

(July 31, 2016 at 8:28 pm)Jello Wrote:

(July 31, 2016 at 3:49 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Lot of nonsense.

If you and robert are just going to disclaim official statistics as nonsense, then this entire discussion is kinda pointless....

If someone makes a habit of responding almost exclusively in dismissive flaming half-sentences, almost never providing any actual arguments, facts, links or elaborating on their opinions, then yes - discussion is rather pointless. No biggie - we can't all be conversationalists. Everyone contributes to the best of their ability...

(July 31, 2016 at 2:14 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(July 30, 2016 at 12:27 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: I'm saying its normal, yeah.

That's not what's being reported...

Quote:"I've spent most of the weekend talking to organizations, individuals and activists who work in the area of race hate crime, who monitor hate crime and they have shown some really disturbing early results from people being stopped in the street and saying look, we voted Leave, it's time for you to leave," she said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/27/europe/rac...st-brexit/

(July 31, 2016 at 8:28 pm)Jello Wrote:

(July 31, 2016 at 3:49 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Lot of nonsense.

If you and robert are just going to disclaim official statistics as nonsense, then this entire discussion is kinda pointless....

It is official that Indian people are more racist towards blacks than white people are, especially on the sub-continent and it is official. Look it up son.