Your world is dying because of that demon called Satan

I don't know about that. Last I checked, it was those who are forced to worship Abdual Wahaab, because they need the oil price at a certain level so that everyone is happy, who tried to sabotage the Paris Climate Talks. People from the supposed Land of Tawheed are trying to start World War Three with their silliness because they really want Hillary Clinton to bomb Syria and install a Fascist government there. Don't blame the Shaytan for the work of mere mortals.

Saudi means you live in the land of al-Saud. I think that's pretty easy. Why would anybody be proud of living in Saudi, I wonder? Apart from oil, sand and theme parks like Medina and Mecca they don't contribute anything to humanity.

If you search " A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto", I think the 1960s were a really dark time for humanity. Rivaling today I think. 1950s were quite bad too. But the 1960s make the 1950s look peaceful. Things don't calm down until the 1980s.

Quote:He doesn't get bored, or lonely.

So why do humans exist? Are you sure Allah didn't get bored of lonely? If you ask people, they say god wanted to "share creation with someone". That's code-words for "god was bored/lonely".

Quote:Don't insult my intelligence ! You, the British, the French, the Chinese, the Africans, you are all the same.

Blatant racists on the forum get banned from the forum pretty quickly. I agree we all the same essentially.

Quote:Do you want to know who real Satanists are?

Pretty sure it's these guys. They actually claim to worship Satan and have no regrets. Nationalists and racists can come in many forms, but you'd struggle to find one that actually worships Satan.

Quote:The Russian lives in an icy desert, it is so cold and dry, the environment has no moderation in temperature, freezing hell.

Are you sure about that? Russian Federation is the biggest country after all. If you search you can see people at the beach, in their bikinis. Suddenly Russia doesn't seem so cold.

This video was apparently filmed in the Moscow region of all places:

Quote:Who called the Russian, Russian?  and who called the Japanese, Japanese?

These people are ethnic groups as well as citizens of a country. There are some differences between humans, especially if we look at genetics, so we categorize people.

Quote:As ironic and unfair as it gets: so if you get born in Russia, you are stuck FOR LIFE with this freezing hell?

Not true. Here's a link to more videos of people at the beach in the Russian Federation:

Russia looks pretty nice, no?

Quote:1-A human who got born in a clean place. Look at his skin, hair and accessories. Bracelets and all.

That doesn't mean he can't appreciate the life of the other. You don't need natural resources to be a rich country. Japan lacks natural resources - that's one of the reasons they declared war on their neighbors for World War Two - and they are lots of "rich" people there. On the other hand, Afghanistan is full of really rare resources - Abdul Ahad Mohmand helped to document this when he went with the Soviets onto Mir so that they could take photographs and map his country. They have more resource wealth in Afghanistan than they know what to do with.

Quote:He fooled you to think that humanity is not one race, but actually 196 different species.

But what classes as a country? How many countries you think there are says a lot about how one views the world. Good video about it:

Quote:Life is a mere simulation.

Life is a temporary state before the afterlife. So so yes, it is a simulation according to the Quran - but the Wahaab-Salalafis have a totally different viewpoint as they try to say that it isn't. They are obsessed with telling us life is not a game (games are a simulation - a miniature reality).

Allah keeps track of out good deeds and bad deeds, like the score in a game, and then we a judged - just like many sportspeople are judged. I actually did a video on this last month. al-Saud's henchmen (Europe is ground-zero for Wahaabi-Salafis - outside of the Gulf Cooperation Council countries) since they argue that life is not a game. Knowing this year's version of  Global Dawah Mission Day is coming soon I decided make a video.

(July 31, 2016 at 9:30 am)Cato Wrote: Ah yes, the old switcharoo. God creates everything, but can't be held responsible for suffering or inequality because of his apathy and the Devil; whom God also created and God presumably should have known better.

No, he is also the God that created evil, death, pain and misery.

What you wrote proves a "heathen" mentality; Zeus and Hades type of thing; though Islam teaches that God is one, the singularity dictates that he created every tiny bit you see around you -from A to Z-.

But he made evil and good a CHOICE. Didn't he? 
To validate my claim, buy a gun and see if evil is a choice or not.

How is God responsible for your shitty decisions?

Alsdair Ham

In your human-made universes, this happens:





So I really doubt your comment.

robvalue

The other stories about reality weren't convincing. But being sure that this is a mere simulation is a fact, thus we must pick adapt a narrative that define the goals of such experience. And Islam wins big time when compared to other scenarios.

Jormungandr

Ha    ha                                                                                              ha.

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The one up above though that I'm speaking about; that we call God in our lives, the God in life and in death, never leaves, goes or sets.
But believe me, I'll choose hanging with Peter Pan over humanity once, twice and thrice.

Someday I will not need to run from captain Hook.

MNMP

Quote:I don't know about that. Last I checked, it was those who are forced to worship Abdual Wahaab, because they need the oil price at a certain level so that everyone is happy, who tried to sabotage the Paris Climate Talks. People from the supposed Land of Tawheed are trying to start World War Three with their silliness because they really want Hillary Clinton to bomb Syria and install a Fascist government there. Don't blame the Shaytan for the work of mere mortals.

Saudi means you live in the land of al-Saud. I think that's pretty easy. Why would anybody be proud of living in Saudi, I wonder? Apart from oil, sand and theme parks like Medina and Mecca they don't contribute anything to humanity.

If you search " A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto", I think the 1960s were a really dark time for humanity. Rivaling today I think. 1950s were quite bad too. But the 1960s make the 1950s look peaceful. Things don't calm down until the 1980s.

Religious people make the best soldiers for Satan. The easiest mind to penetrate is the religious mind; this is rule number one in modern proxy wars: the CIA sat on the throne of mastery of proxy wars through the usage of religious fanatics to become human-shields for American soldiers.

Afghanistan is such an example for this new war tactic: find some religious people, use their naive stupidity to make them fight your fight. America didn't succeed in south America because the population is less religious; and separating religion from warfare and politics was the norm in there; Guevara and Castro gave the best example on that.

Wahhabies and Muslims, add Jews and Christians too, are the easiest to begin deeds of evil and corruption.
It's not like the Quran didn't say it; actually it did say that:

( Sura 4 150 )   Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, "We believe in some and disbelieve in others," and wish to adopt a way in between -
( 151 )   Those are the disbelievers, truly. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment.

Apply this on Wahhabies and most Muslims. They do say that they believe, but that doesn't make them believers, MNMP. No, they strip religion out of every concept it has; twist it to suit their needs, then come claim they believe.

No. They are the disbelievers; truly. At least, atheists think, unlike them.

The 60s was brutal; indeed. But the world today isn't any better. But instead of explicit warfare, superpowers preferred cold, hidden wars that include economical strikes, proxy war, and such stealthy tactics. War today is more brutal TBH.

Everything happens like yesterday, but humans learned how to dig and hide.

Watched a video for the timeline of the blows. Sad. These weapons will be used against civilians on a massive scale someday. Mark my word. All you need is a wahhabi in power, or Hilary Clinton to get such conclusion.

Quote:So why do humans exist? Are you sure Allah didn't get bored of lonely? If you ask people, they say god wanted to "share creation with someone". That's code-words for "god was bored/lonely".
 

God creates. He makes; so he made humans, made out of star dust or shorthand "dust" only, and blew life into us to wake from the silence of mute death;  we woke up because we were created for this exact purpose: to wake up and live; eat the creations that our maker made for us to eat, enjoy the bodies of our mates, enjoy the wonders of the universe, a warm swim followed by a hot Mocha.
That's it. We were made to worship him, and worshiping him is to be alive. For life to be life; we must have brains; minds. This is how it is. This is what he chose as a creator, to give us a brain that is capable of literally everything; you can validate my claim by imagining yourself growing wings and fly through a rainbow. This brain is also capable of burning towns and kidnapping children, also capable of bombing cities and skin people alive; and actually be so creative with the method of torture.
This brain that is essential to the process of life and living, is free to think and free to navigate. Unlike animals; we were honored with this brain; only if we use it probably.
Sura 91
( 1 )   By the sun and its brightness
( 2 )   And [by] the moon when it follows it
( 3 )   And [by] the day when it displays it
( 4 )   And [by] the night when it covers it
( 5 )   And [by] the sky and He who constructed it
( 6 )   And [by] the earth and He who spread it
( 7 )   And [by] the soul and He who proportioned it
( 8 )   And inspired it [with discernment of] its wickedness and its righteousness,
( 9 )   He has succeeded who purifies it,
( 10 )   And he has failed who instills it [with corruption].

He inspired wickedness and righteousness into us. Our choices though are what decide how the end would yield. God never told us to be wicked. He always called for the other path; and advised humans not to abuse the brains they have.

Quote:Blatant racists on the forum get banned from the forum pretty quickly. I agree we all the same essentially.

One reason that makes me love this place. I did find a haven here, and this was a lesson. I didn't find such haven with Muslims; so I pretty much know that there is something wrong with the Umma.
That's why I told you that to me as a Muslim, the disbelievers don't need to be "official"; actually those who practice the religion under a twisted notion like Wahhabies and Shiites might be the true disbelievers; the true criminal racists.
In truth, the Middle East -which is a Muslim majority- is pretty messed up with racism, war crimes and death, Syria is a hellish example. Syria is mainly the fault of Muslims. Muslims allowed this to happen; Shiites and Sunnies worked so well for Russia and America, so I truly wonder: who is the real disbeliever?
The Sunni behind the knife, or that secular politician in the U.S ?
Allahu Akbar ? or ISIS Akbar? to me, it's more like "Sunna Akbar" ! these guys are racists who fight for their tribes and clans and militias; that's all.

Quote:Pretty sure it's these guys. They actually claim to worship Satan and have no regrets. Nationalists and racists can come in many forms, but you'd struggle to find one that actually worships Satan.

No, they worship the Hollywood image of Satan.
Real Satanism and Theistic Satanism -both- are only defined and exist under the shadow of Abrahamic religions. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan
Modern Satanism -aside from being under the shadow of Abrahamic religions- is a mere hollywood crush on the persona of Christianity's Satan as represented in the forged bible.
Real Satanists don't even know that they worship the devil.
( Sura 7 Verse 27 )   O children of Adam, let not Satan tempt you as he removed your parents from Paradise, stripping them of their clothing to show them their private parts. Indeed, he sees you, he and his tribe, from where you do not see them. Indeed, We have made the devils allies to those who do not believe.

We can't see him. We can't communicate with him. The only thing he can do is whispering; and the weak will listen. Secretive, stealthy, cunning. Shits so deep and then run away, to leave us with the mess he just inspired.

But he makes humans believe that he "haunts houses" and does magic tricks along with his followers to rub our survival horror gland.

Quote:These people are ethnic groups as well as citizens of a country. There are some differences between humans, especially if we look at genetics, so we categorize people.

From the inside we are all the same.

Quote:That doesn't mean he can't appreciate the life of the other. You don't need natural resources to be a rich country. Japan lacks natural resources - that's one of the reasons they declared war on their neighbors for World War Two - and they are lots of "rich" people there. On the other hand, Afghanistan is full of really rare resources - Abdul Ahad Mohmand helped to document this when he went with the Soviets onto Mir so that they could take photographs and map his country. They have more resource wealth in Afghanistan than they know what to do with.

Of course. No stereotyping intended. What you stated is a trust issue that governments face in some stages, and that is when the government get invaded by corrupted, selfish people. These people were given the keys of the peoples' treasury out of blind trust that is cast by nationalism: the same mentality that makes me an enemy of every human born in Europe if I criticize the EU for example, be anti-humans born in America for criticizing Bush...etc

The concept of "he is us..our money is his money". 
But can a land be wealthy without a source of wealth? 

Quote: But what classes as a country? How many countries you think there are says a lot about how one views the world. Good video about it:

Nice video. Yes; it is invasion and occupation using force and trickery hidden under funny names to lock us inside bars and prisons called "countries".
They are fake. The changing numbers are just a good evidence on how fake borders are.

Quote:Life is a temporary state before the afterlife. So so yes, it is a simulation according to the Quran - but the Wahaab-Salalafis have a totally different viewpoint as they try to say that it isn't. They are obsessed with telling us life is not a game (games are a simulation - a miniature reality).

Allah keeps track of out good deeds and bad deeds, like the score in a game, and then we a judged - just like many sportspeople are judged. I actually did a video on this last month. al-Saud's henchmen (Europe is ground-zero for Wahaabi-Salafis - outside of the Gulf Cooperation Council countries) since they argue that life is not a game. Knowing this year's version of  Global Dawah Mission Da

If one admitted that life is a mere game, the Saudi king would have a hard time in the attempt of forcing people to take him seriously. Arrogance is based on taking life seriously; an arrogant individual would never admit that the good condition he is in are due to him being born in a rich family, or him being the decendent of a wealthy royal family,like most Saudi princes.
Though you're giving them too much credit : They never act alone; they follow orders and that's all, give them alcohol, sex and drugs then let them in to nightclubs and that's it: you're the new lover of the Saudi royals; they will worship you.

Europe is their vacation ground, and the land of their masters, that's all.

The British Empire cursed us all when it gave them a country under the treaty of darin.

WTF did I just read? Is this serious or a parody?

Milton in Paradise lost tried to prove god a hero and satan an enemy. What he ended up doing was showing Satan as the hero and god the tyrant. He was right. Satan is the Prometheus of the bible who gave man wisdom that god wanted to deny us.

Hail Satan.

And read Job. Satan is the slave of god. Who claimed to create famine evil and war.

But I'm gonna go with parody.

(August 1, 2016 at 9:29 am)Banjo Wrote: WTF did I just read? Is this serious or a parody?

Milton in Paradise lost tried to prove god a hero and satan an enemy. What he ended up doing was showing Satan as the hero and god the tyrant. He was right. Satan is the Prometheus of the bible who gave man wisdom that god wanted to deny us.

Hail Satan.

And read Job. Satan is the slave of god. Who claimed to create famine evil and war.

But I'm gonna go with parody.

It's Atlas, he's usually serious.

(August 1, 2016 at 9:31 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 9:29 am)Banjo Wrote: WTF did I just read? Is this serious or a parody?

Milton in Paradise lost tried to prove god a hero and satan an enemy. What he ended up doing was showing Satan as the hero and god the tyrant. He was right. Satan is the Prometheus of the bible who gave man wisdom that god wanted to deny us.

Hail Satan.

And read Job. Satan is the slave of god. Who claimed to create famine evil and war.

But I'm gonna go with parody.

It's Atlas, he's usually serious.

Spooky.

If life is a simulation, what is the real thing that it is simulating?

(August 1, 2016 at 9:31 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 9:29 am)Banjo Wrote: WTF did I just read? Is this serious or a parody?

Milton in Paradise lost tried to prove god a hero and satan an enemy. What he ended up doing was showing Satan as the hero and god the tyrant. He was right. Satan is the Prometheus of the bible who gave man wisdom that god wanted to deny us.

Hail Satan.

And read Job. Satan is the slave of god. Who claimed to create famine evil and war.

But I'm gonna go with parody.

It's Atlas, he's usually serious.

He is a lost cause.

Yes, irreligious people find the solutions for themselves rather than relying on their religion all the time. My profile image (which I created) on here is a Wahaabi-Salafi person praying to the ATM. Just like you told me. Allah must find me less annoying than larges sections of the Ummah because I don't say "Inshallah" after every single word/sentence and stupid things like that.

"Inshallah I will breathe today"

"Inshallah I will be able to say Inshallah again."

Very silly. Yes, I still listening to that sickening Wahaab-Salafi stuff. But they have flooded the World Wide Web. They have drowned out other voices with their propaganda.

Quote:No, they worship the Hollywood image of Satan.
Real Satanism and Theistic Satanism -both- are only defined and exist under the shadow of Abrahamic religions. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan
Modern Satanism -aside from being under the shadow of Abrahamic religions- is a mere hollywood crush on the persona of Christianity's Satan as represented in the forged bible.
Real Satanists don't even know that they worship the devil.

The first thing to do is a need to correct you on this.

e.g.
Satanic Group Dakhma of Angra Mainyu To Hold Controversial ‘Black Mass’ In Oklahoma

Who is Angra Mainyu? Well, Zarathustra was the first person to devise the idea of heaven and hellfire, plus strict monotheism. Safe to say, the ancient Persians hated him for that, being polytheists. When he fled his home it reminds me of how Muhammad went from Mecca to Medina because after he fled, Zarathustra found a new tribe of people they converted to his new religion. So Zarathustra had his own version of the Hijrah. And eventually all of Persia (Iran/Iraq, that kind of area), like all of Arabia for Muhammad, converted to his new religion.

Anyhow, Zarathustra came before Abraham because his religion is older than even the Jews. So Angra Mainyu, this Satan-type figure Zarathustra spoke about, cannot be Abrahamic. And you find people who worship him. This is their website (Dakhma of Angra Mainyu). They seem to be related to Church of Ahriman.

I'll let them explain:
They are pretty clear they DO NOT worship Lucifer (i.e. Abrahamic Shaytan) whilst still being akin to more "mainstream" (Theistic) Satanists, that is not the Anton LaVey Satanists (who are actually Atheists). The point is, they still say they worship what you may call demonic/evil spirits. Just not the ones of Abrahamic religions; because Zarathustra also taught strict monotheism and about hellfire (but before anyone else did). The man in the video seems very annoyed at these, as you put it, Hollywood image Satan guys who you said are "under the shadow of Abrahamic religions".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fjt_SleO34

(August 1, 2016 at 1:16 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: Yes, irreligious people find the solutions for themselves rather than relying on their religion all the time. My profile image (which I created) on here is a Wahaabi-Salafi person praying to the ATM. Just like you told me. Allah must find me less annoying than larges sections of the Ummah because I don't say "Inshallah" after every single word/sentence and stupid things like that.

"Inshallah I will breathe today"

"Inshallah I will be able to say Inshallah again."

Very silly. Yes, I still listening to that sickening Wahaab-Salafi stuff. But they have flooded the World Wide Web. They have drowned out other voices with their propaganda.

Quote:No, they worship the Hollywood image of Satan.
Real Satanism and Theistic Satanism -both- are only defined and exist under the shadow of Abrahamic religions. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan
Modern Satanism -aside from being under the shadow of Abrahamic religions- is a mere hollywood crush on the persona of Christianity's Satan as represented in the forged bible.
Real Satanists don't even know that they worship the devil.

The first thing to do is a need to correct you on this.

e.g.
Satanic Group Dakhma of Angra Mainyu To Hold Controversial ‘Black Mass’ In Oklahoma

Who is Angra Mainyu? Well, Zarathustra was the first person to devise the idea of heaven and hellfire, plus strict monotheism. Safe to say, the ancient Persians hated him for that, being polytheists. When he fled his home it reminds me of how Muhammad went from Mecca to Medina because after he fled, Zarathustra found a new tribe of people they converted to his new religion. So Zarathustra had his own version of the Hijrah. And eventually all of Persia (Iran/Iraq, that kind of area), like all of Arabia for Muhammad, converted to his new religion.

Anyhow, Zarathustra came before Abraham because his religion is older than even the Jews. So Angra Mainyu, this Satan-type figure Zarathustra spoke about, cannot be Abrahamic. And you find people who worship him. This is their website (Dakhma of Angra Mainyu). They seem to be related to Church of Ahriman.

I'll let them explain:
They are pretty clear they DO NOT worship Lucifer (i.e. Abrahamic Shaytan) whilst still being akin to more "mainstream" (Theistic) Satanists, that is not the Anton LaVey Satanists (who are actually Atheists). The point is, they still say they worship what you may call demonic/evil spirits. Just not the ones of Abrahamic religions; because Zarathustra also taught strict monotheism and about hellfire (but before anyone else did). The man in the video seems very annoyed at these, as you put it, Hollywood image Satan guys who you said are "under the shadow of Abrahamic religions".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fjt_SleO34

Er, there was monotheism in Egypt long before Zarathustra.

Just sayin'.

(August 1, 2016 at 3:48 pm)Banjo Wrote: Er, there was monotheism in Egypt long before Zarathustra.
Just sayin'.

Oh, you mean that Akhenaten stuff? Pretty sure Zarathustia is earlier than 1300BC. Quoting Mary Bryce's book "Zoroastrians: They beliefs And Practices" (which I own and is also referred on Zarathustra's English Wikipedia article:
"Scholars generally place Zarathushtra as having lived in north-east Iran or northern Afghanistan some time between 1700 and 1300 BCE"

The point is more the similarities between Zarathustra and Muhammad. I'll list a few I can remember quickly:

1. Seven days of creation
2. Man is the last living thing to be created
3. Evil spirit refuses to praise man (like how Iblis did not bow to Adam)
4. Woman is created after man.
5. Zarathustra was in his thirties when he was first visited by an angel of god.
6. The angel gave Zarathustra his revelation gradually, like Gabriel to Muhammad
7. Chinvat Bridge basically the same as As-Sirāt
8. Heaven and hell are concepts Zarathustra taught.
9. Strict monotheism too.
10. Zarathustra moved from his birthplace, where people had grown to hate him, to a new area, where he managed to convert a local tribe, kind of like the Hijra.
11. Zarathustrians pray five times each day - this the same as Salat.
12. They wash themselves before each pray - like Wudu.

I'm sure there are more similarities.

Also put my post in spoiler tags; it's way too long to be quoted like that.