(August 5, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 1:30 pm)paulpablo Wrote: They look young and they have very nice clothes and hair and they obviously don't have to worry about missing work on a Friday daytime.
So they're privileged enough to not have to work and to lie in the sunshine on a road on what is a very learnt day here in the uk.
I'm not prejudice against them you could at I'm making assumptions, but I admit they're assumptions, I'm doing some guess work based on the appearance of the protestors.

...which is exactly the point.  You're judging them based on appearances -without known a goddamned thing about them-.

You don't even see it, which was exactly my point.

Funnily enough, the liberal left-wingers on another forum claimed that all the members of EDL are stupid, or where the same clothes, share the same haircut that sort of thing. It works both ways.

And for the third time:

(August 5, 2016 at 9:52 am)paulpablo Wrote: I know you hate white people but it's a motorway, there's going to be more than just white people using it.

(my bolding)

Who are you saying hates white people?

(August 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: ...which is exactly the point.  You're judging them based on appearances -without known a goddamned thing about them-.

You don't even see it, which was exactly my point.

Funnily enough, the liberal left-wingers on another forum claimed that all the members of EDL are stupid, or where the same clothes, share the same haircut that sort of thing. It works both ways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

(August 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: ...which is exactly the point.  You're judging them based on appearances -without known a goddamned thing about them-.

You don't even see it, which was exactly my point.

Funnily enough, the liberal left-wingers on another forum claimed that all the members of EDL are stupid, or where the same clothes, share the same haircut that sort of thing. It works both ways.

Of course it does, and I'd call them out on it too if I saw it.

Take it up with them, would ya?

(August 5, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm)RobertE Wrote: Funnily enough, the liberal left-wingers on another forum claimed that all the members of EDL are stupid, or where the same clothes, share the same haircut that sort of thing. It works both ways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

"You're doing a bad thing"

"So? Those other people are doing a bad thing too!"

"Wut?"

(August 5, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 1:30 pm)paulpablo Wrote: They look young and they have very nice clothes and hair and they obviously don't have to worry about missing work on a Friday daytime.
So they're privileged enough to not have to work and to lie in the sunshine on a road on what is a very learnt day here in the uk.
I'm not prejudice against them you could at I'm making assumptions, but I admit they're assumptions, I'm doing some guess work based on the appearance of the protestors.

...which is exactly the point. You're judging them based on appearances -without known a goddamned thing about them-.

You don't even see it, which was exactly my point.

You're partially correct, I do have some preconceived notions about these people based on their actions and appearance.

But it's incorrect to say I know nothing about them.
I know they are young, that they do have nice clothes and nicely done hair. I know they don't have to be in work or looking after children or anything more important than lying on a motorway today.

So based on that I am thinking that they are young students who don't have to work who are just doing this because it's the latest hashtag.

But you're correct I don't know this for an absolute fact, I. Just stating my thoughts, predictions and my guess work as to what the demographic of the protestors will be made up of.

(August 5, 2016 at 8:10 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Don't block fucking roads and I might be slightly more sympathetic.

In other words you might be more sympathetic, but still do nothing, if only they would pretend their lives matter less than your road using convenience.

You offer such a great deal.

(August 5, 2016 at 2:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 1:33 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: ...which is exactly the point.  You're judging them based on appearances -without known a goddamned thing about them-.

You don't even see it, which was exactly my point.

You're partially correct, I do have some preconceived notions about these people based on their actions and appearance.

But it's incorrect to say I know nothing about them.
I know they are young, that they do have nice clothes and nicely done hair.  I know they don't have to be in work or looking after children or anything more important than lying on a motorway today.

With you so far....

(August 5, 2016 at 2:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote: So based on that I am thinking that they are young students who don't have to work who are just doing this because it's the latest hashtag.

...and now you've jumped the rails.

This is not different in any material way from seeing some urban youths dressed a particular way and concluding from that they're gangbangers.

Enjoy your prejudice.

(August 5, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 8:10 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Don't block fucking roads and I might be slightly more sympathetic.

In other words you might be more sympathetic, but still do nothing, if only they would pretend their lives matter less than your road using convenience.  

You offer such a great deal.

Have you bothered to read my later replies?

(August 5, 2016 at 2:09 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 5, 2016 at 8:10 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Don't block fucking roads and I might be slightly more sympathetic.

In other words you might be more sympathetic, but still do nothing, if only they would pretend their lives matter less than your road using convenience.

You offer such a great deal.

It's not about their lives it's about the latest hashtag.

Their hashtag matters more to them than the general public (including non white people and every other minority) being able to go to work, see their family, use the roads they pay taxes for.