You don't feel the urges but they're still there deeply rooted on the biological level:

(August 9, 2016 at 12:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Holding a cork tightly over the bottle doesn't mean yer champagne's not ready to go.

THIS.

Primarily, most significantly and ultimately sex drives are biological, not psychological. You can feel no urge at all on the psychological level because you have suppressed your urges enough that you are no longer aware of them, but that's what repression is and it's not healthy. It means you're so pent up you're not even aware of it and your sexual frustration and stress expresses itself through other means besides sex.

(August 10, 2016 at 1:59 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: You don't feel the urges but they're still there deeply rooted on the biological level:

(August 9, 2016 at 12:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Holding a cork tightly over the bottle doesn't mean yer champagne's not ready to go.

THIS.

Primarily, most significantly and ultimately sex drives are biological, not psychological. You can feel no urge at all on the psychological level because you have suppressed your urges enough that you are no longer aware of them, but that's what repression is and it's not healthy. It means you're so pent up you're not even aware of it and your sexual frustration and stress expresses itself through other means besides sex.

I'm not sure why you guys are so eager to prove that something isn't real, when two people are describing their own experiences with it.

When I was young and pretty spiritual, I abstained, I trained my mind not to think about sex at all, and my body followed, surprisingly happily.  I wasn't pent up, or frustrated, or whatever.  I was just a non-sexual being, by choice.

I'm saying it is perfectly possible, and you guys keep finding new ways to say it's not.  But I have direct experience of the possibility and you have. . . what, exactly?  Just your ideas about it.

(August 10, 2016 at 1:59 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: You don't feel the urges but they're still there deeply rooted on the biological level:

(August 9, 2016 at 12:48 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Holding a cork tightly over the bottle doesn't mean yer champagne's not ready to go.

THIS.

Primarily, most significantly and ultimately sex drives are biological, not psychological. You can feel no urge at all on the psychological level because you have suppressed your urges enough that you are no longer aware of them, but that's what repression is and it's not healthy. It means you're so pent up you're not even aware of it and your sexual frustration and stress expresses itself through other means besides sex.

Biology and psychology are often intertwined together. Hard to always separate the two levels of analysis.

Bah.

You can't just think your sex drive away.

Again... subconscious urges exist, repression is a thing.

* Edwardo Piet is tired of the BS

(August 10, 2016 at 7:20 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm not sure why you guys are so eager to prove that something isn't real, when two people are describing their own experiences with it.

The whole fucking point is personal experience is not evidence. Just because you are no longer aware of your urges and don't consciously feel them doesn't mean they don't exist. Repression is a thing.

Science > subjective personal experience.

Sigh.

If I willed my sexual urges away and never desired sex again I'd still have a sex drive and I'd also probably be very frustrated and unhappy and blame it on other things. Denial and repression go together.

(August 10, 2016 at 11:32 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Bah.

You can't just think your sex drive away.

Again... subconscious urges exist, repression is a thing.

* Alasdair Ham is tired of the BS

I don't know if one can just think their sex drive away, but it's not exactly something strictly biological or physically concrete. It's more a construct for some sexual "energy" or "force" that seems to drive people to seek sexual stimulation in one form or another.

(August 10, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I wish all wankers a happy wanking. I'm benevolent like that.

I think there should be a bank holiday. August 11, Wanking Day. Why isn't there? Prudes!

You're not a scientist, so you have no clue what you're talking about.

I'm not talking about repression. Nor is benny. And you're a fucking asshole. Go fuck yourself.

(August 11, 2016 at 2:16 am)Alex K Wrote:

(August 10, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I wish all wankers a happy wanking. I'm benevolent like that.

I think there should be a bank holiday. August 11,  Wanking Day. Why isn't there? Prudes!

Because they're all transitionalphobic.