since I've been initiated with christian posers trying desperately to revise historical fact, I've decided to past just the evidence of the facts right in a new thread so all new readers can see that there is a mountain of evidence, and look at some on those legitimate atheist websites right there.

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"The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."
— Adolf Hitler, Berlin, 1933, first radio address after coming to power.

"The national Government sees in both Christian denominations the most important factor for the maintenance of our society."
— Adolf Hitler, speech at the Reichstag, March 1933

"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith ... We need believing people."
— Adolf Hitler, April 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordat of 1933

"I am personally convinced of the great power and deep significance of Christianity, and I won't allow any other religion to be promoted."
— Adolf Hitler

"Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years."
— Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1

We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations; we have stamped it out."
— Adolf Hitler, speech on October 24, 1933

There's a whole list of relevant quotes here http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Quotes.htm

"The work that Christ started but could not finish, I — Adolf Hitler — will conclude."
— Adolf Hitler, December 1926. Here, here, and here are more of his quotes on religion, God, and Christianity. Here are Nazi photos showing their alliance with Christianity.

Now let me address a favorite criticism of the christian posers here, one, this is not a "blanket statement" because its a statement of fact, the nazi's required applicants to be christian in order to join their party, so every nazi WAS a christian because they were required to be. Furthermore, 87% of the german population was christian when the nazi's were elected and the nazi's in no way hid their hatreds from the public, in fact those hates were the subject of every speech and the majority of the 87% Christians voted for them,so its not just technically true that every nazi was a christian, the nazi's had the full support of the churches as well as the vote of the 87% christian populace.

All of the webpages I linked too are established, well known atheist websites or supporters, and they present verifiable historical facts! Facts which the churches are trying to cover up with revisionist history and the huge irony of that fact is thats its not even the catholic church doing it, the claim that hitler was an atheist is coming mainly from baptist ministers and evangelical televangelists and their followers. Gerald, the catholic historian I verified these facts with is the one who pointed that out to me, his church isn't even the one trying to rewrite history.

Now why again are either atheist or an agnostic arguing precisely the opposite when the opposite is the false propaganda presented by those who hate atheists and agnostics alike? I don't mind discussing issues with religious people, but the words of Phil Robertson, the 2014 FBI hate crimes statistics report, and a number of other incidents have some of us deeply concerned with the propaganda coming from the church of late and we feel we need form a front and push for a civil rights reform and that becomes difficult when you shamelessly call yourselves atheist online and infiltrate our community, then specifically undermine those efforts. If you religious bigots did that crap to Jewish people, no one would deny that its wrong and bigoted, so what makes it ok for you to do it to us?

And when people call you out on your BS - you'll just make yet another thread about the same dumb topic?

I mean - I enjoy flaming christians as much as the next guy, but sheeesh... Let it go.

(October 21, 2015 at 1:26 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: And when people call you out on your BS - you'll just make yet another thread about the same dumb topic?

Its anything but BS the evidence is right there, if your really an atheist why would you be so inclined to ignore the facts in front of you to support you yourself being falsely compared to the most evil person in history?

No one called me on anything BTW, a number of atheist agreed with me and then a bunch of you posers showed up to try and shout the issue under the table, and ignoring the evidence i posted while they did it, that's why I started a new thread with the reference material in the first post, so it cant be overlooked.

and Christians revising history to support their bigoted claim that anyone who doesn't follow their religion is evil is not a "dumb topic". There is nothing many Jewish people despise more than a revisionist historian claim "hitler was a jew" as they often do, because such people are obfuscating the truth in order to put the blame on the very people who were victimized and I'm angry as fuck for the same reason and number of others.

(October 21, 2015 at 1:26 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: I mean - I enjoy flaming christians as much as the next guy, but sheeesh... Let it go.

I dont enjoy anything of the sort bigot, I get along very well with the Christians I know personally and couldn't care less what they believe, this is a serious issue of prejudice that's coming from some corners of the religion but not all.

Did you think it would magically be less bullshit the second time around?

(October 19, 2015 at 3:14 pm)Deepthunk Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Can I call you ShallowThink?  Probably you'd object.  But that's what I see, shallow binary thinking.   You are with me or against me BS. 

Abaris is an atheist.  I'm an atheist.  Hitler met with Christians and talked a Christian and a pagan game.  He may possibly have been atheist.  He's motives were political and he might say anything about religion for politic ends.   I don't know what he was. And neither can anyone else know with certainty what he was. Nazis were Christian, deist, and perhaps atheist.  Who knows?  But they weren't all Christian.  Christianity wasn't the point.  German purity was.

you are not an atheist, your a Christian who calls yourself atheist online and that's all.

Jewish people hate revisionist historians for a good reason, and no matter what you claim, me and every atheist at godless geeks dot com have shown you factual evidence that Hitler was catholic, and your still fighting to call me a liar you fucking bigoted bitch? what about everyone at godlessgeeks.com, that website with all the evidence you ignore, are they liars too?

see, I know godless geeks are atheists, and I know there evidence is irrefutable proof because I've been through it, but on this forum there's a bunch of people who call themselves atheists but your trying to prove those atheists are liars when their evidence is undeniable?

who lying you evil bigoted bitch?

You're like the atheistic equivalent of Pat Robertson.

" Fact, every single german nazi was a christian"

And of course you went back in time to interview each and every one of them, with lie detector attached, to enable you to make this pronouncement without any hint of a subjectivity that would be, how shall we say this, Christian in its flippancy?

Fact: You still haven't recanted your misstatement about Hitler attending a monastery.

Fact: No one here is exonerating Christians, they're simply pointing out that NaZi motivations weren't religious.

Fact: The Americans, British, French, Canadians, and other Allies who fought the Third Reich were overwhelmingly Christian themselves, yet you remain oddly silent about that.

Fact: When confronted with an opposing viewpoint, you toss out anecdotes and then accuse your interlocutors of being secret Christians.

Fact: Your involvement in this discussion has been the worst part of it.

I just want to point out two things again, 1. that which can be proven to be true is fact, regardless of our personal feelings on the matter. and 2. I noted how many Christians came out of the woodwork to spit at every word, and how few actual atheists there seem to be on this atheist website.

Oh and one question for the christian lobby, if your religion is so factual and valid why cant you tolerate the words of the tiny minority of atheists who simply don't believe it?

I think we could really have done without that necro...