So the IUS is both one and infinite and this is why when it destabilizes/self expresses, I intuit it manifesting infinite sphere/field/point quanta at the same instant. How? As a infinite horizontal plane of equal sized spheres. No matter where the IUS divides, it divides exactly in half and fires of in one direction, creating not one plane of infinite equal sized spheres but plane after plane after plane, forever. Once set in motion, it will continue to leaves cavitated universes in it's wake all patterned exactly the same.

The metaverse is a quantum deterministic sphere stack of equal sized void bubbles/spheres/universes. They are all a singular expression of the same one thing. They are finite wave-forms of the original infinite "particle" (IUS)

I know I am going fast there is a bit to get through...any questions, comments, concerns so far?

Yes, I have a question

You intuit. That is not scientific.

(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 11:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: The classical answer is the expansion of space-time.  What is your answer?

My theological answer is a "self expression" by the extant God but the scientific answer "quantum fluctuation" works just as well.  But neither fully answers "how"?

My answer comes from quantizing the infinite spacial relationships the IUS has with it's own substance, into finite representation. This is not word salad, this is the discrete meaning of "quantum": the minimum single action or measurement of an infinite.

Well, first off, your use of the phrase 'infinite' slipped past me. Even if the original universe had no center and was omnipresent in space-time, that doesn't make it infinite in comparison to current time spatial metrics. So no, infinity is not one of its attributes. Moreover, it seems plausible that an actual infinity cannot exist, so this infinitude of the early universe must only be conceptual.

Second, that's not the definition of quantum. Loosely speaking, quantum result from quantizing the finite, that the finite is organized into discrete quanta that are indivisible. It does sound like word salad to me, but please continue.

(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: The substance of the IUS exists in 3 equal relationships: All around itself equally in all directions, at the center of itself everywhere and as a field in tension equilibrium. This quantizes into a sphere, a point of real substance (not a place holder point) in the center of the sphere, and a tetrahedron (minimum geometric tensor of 3d space) between them.

Why would it quantize into essentially two space objects and a tetrahedron? This step doesn't seem to follow from mere quantization of the plenury that was the early universe. How is this a better prediction of the early universe than standard inflationary cosmology?

(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: If a God being expressed itself, those are the only spatial relationships to be expressed..... if the IUS just up and one day quantum fluctuated, those are the only spacial relationships to be expressed.

If I follow you, you're suggesting that this hypothetical evolution of the early universe is identical to that which would be the product of a god being expressing itself. I fail to see where you get that this is the necessary consequence of a god expressing itself. Feel free to continue anyway. I'll do my best to make sense of it.

(August 15, 2016 at 12:11 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Follow so far?

Vaguely. I'll know better from your next step.

(August 15, 2016 at 12:23 am)Maelstrom Wrote:

(August 15, 2016 at 12:17 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Because the word "quantum" is highly abused by psuedo-scientists and I was warned several times about salading. You are free to look up the definition of "quantum" and check for yourself.

And you are free to look it up, as well.  I just did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum

In physics, a quantum (plural: quanta) is the minimum amount of any physical entity involved in an interaction. Behind this, one finds the fundamental notion that a physical property may be "quantized," referred to as "the hypothesis of quantization".[1] This means that the magnitude of the physical property can take on only certain discrete values.

For example, a photon is a single quantum of (visible) light as well as a single quantum of all other forms of electromagnetic radiation, and can be referred to as a "light quantum". The energy of an electron bound to an atom is also quantized, and thus can only exist in certain discrete values. As a result, atoms are stable, and hence matter in general is stable.

So.... when is all this going to get to a god?

(August 15, 2016 at 12:33 am)Maelstrom Wrote: You intuit.  That is not scientific.

http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/ast123/lectures/lec17.html

Physics of the early Universe is at the boundary of astronomy and philosophy since we do not currently have a complete theory that unifies all the fundamental forces of Nature at the moment of Creation. In addition, there is no possibility of linking observation or experimentation of early Universe physics to our theories (i.e. it's not possible to `build' another Universe). Our theories are rejected or accepted based on simplicity and aesthetic grounds, plus their power of prediction to later times, rather than an appeal to empirical results. This is a very difference way of doing science from previous centuries of research.

(August 15, 2016 at 12:36 am)Esquilax Wrote: So.... when is all this going to get to a god?

It's hidden in word salad.

(August 15, 2016 at 12:31 am)Arkilogue Wrote: So the IUS is both one and infinite and this is why when it destabilizes/self expresses, I intuit it manifesting infinite sphere/field/point quanta at the same instant. How?  As a infinite horizontal plane of equal sized spheres. No matter where the IUS divides, it divides exactly in half and fires of in one direction, creating not one plane of infinite equal sized spheres but plane after plane after plane, forever. Once set in motion, it will continue to leaves cavitated universes in it's wake all patterned exactly the same.

The metaverse is a quantum deterministic sphere stack of equal sized void bubbles/spheres/universes. They are all a singular expression of the same one thing. They are finite wave-forms of the original infinite "particle" (IUS)

I know I am going fast there is a bit to get through...any questions, comments, concerns so far?

Okay. We have an infinite stack of space-time bubbles. We'll ignore for the moment that you wouldn't have an actual infinity of space-time spheres and see where it goes from here. Are we thus postulating a multiverse then?

(August 15, 2016 at 12:17 am)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 14, 2016 at 11:54 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I don't see any reason for God to be more similar to a magnetic field then a deer. Seems sort of like making stuff up to me. Also a magnetic field, although it can't be seen, can be measured. It's especially strange considering that you told me that I should have a higher threshold for believing in God. My threshold is the same as my threshold for believing in a deer.

The earths mag field is omnipresent, within you and all around you, spread throughout the earth though men see it not.

The deer is over there...in the one spot.  Okay several cubic feet of "spot".

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(August 15, 2016 at 12:13 am)Maelstrom Wrote: I follow the fact since you had to mention it was not word salad automatically makes me doubly assume it is exactly word salad.

Because the word "quantum" is highly abused by psuedo-scientists and I was warned several times about salading. You are free to look up the definition of "quantum" and check for yourself.

You can measure the earths magnetic field. Things that exist can be measured in some way or another. That some things cannot be seen yet still exist is not proof of God because those things can still be measured. I still fail to see any good reason that God couldn't been seen anyway.