By fucking the Deity without respecting it as an individual.

(August 18, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: By fucking the Deity without respecting it as an individual.

Isn't that making the deity the subject of your rape object?

(August 18, 2016 at 2:35 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: You could just go off of what I'm saying in this discussion, and keep assumptions to a minimum. You know have a discussion, and see where it goes.

Um...I was going off of what you said in the discussion, hence the direct quote. I'm not making any assumptions; quite the opposite in fact. I'm trying to pin down what points you're actually attempting to make so that I don't unintentionally straw-man you, and then get accused of "shifting the goal posts." The problem is you keep waffling. Are we talking bible claims here or not?

Quote:I did read it (as well as a number of similar ones in the past)... It deals with lineups, and the ability of a person to pick a stranger out of a line up. I largely agree. I think that if a person got a good look at the person in question, that the chosen suspect will look fairly similar to the actual person, but can understand where there may be error here. This article didn't go into much detail on the issue of confidence about things that where false. However from other similar articles, this may be a small detail that is remembered incorrectly or altered by other circumstances afterwards (in which your article also discusses somewhat). How do you think I should apply these to stories about evidence for evolution?

I'm sorry; I didn't realize we were talking about evolution. I thought, per YOUR WORDS, we were talking strictly about eyewitness testimony and its value as evidence. The article touches nicely on this very subject. It's just one short article ofc, but it's 100% relevant to the subject you said you wanted to discuss.

Quote:You are getting closer to what I think your position is, which is begging the question

Yeah, I'm the one being vague about my position, lol. [emoji849]

Quote:What evidence do you have that these are backed by actual data...How do you know, that it (medication) was tested in a lab.... do you have sufficient evidence that it was?

Okay, you've got to be a Poe. You've GOT to be. Are you kidding? I mean, I'm assuming you leave your house every day, yes? You engage in the world around you? You're aware of things like modern medicine and space travel? You aren't sitting in a cave building fire to keep warm, and you're able to buy food with a comfortable shelf-life from the grocery store, correct? Why do you think that is? The physical, observable world you live in accurately reflects the milestones of scientific advancement this species has made in a consistent and methodological way. No need to wonder if anyone is lying or delusional. We can SEE it.

What do you have going for your "religious data"? Zilch. Nada. All's quiet on the firmament. No Jesus saving babies from fires. All you have is vehement insistence with nothing tangible to substantiate it.

Oh, and as far as scientific evidence for historical accounts goes, you should check out these fields called, "archeology", and "paleontology." Fascinating stuff.

(August 18, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: By fucking the Deity without respecting it as an individual.

Isn't that making the deity the subject of your rape object?

Or is this a recent terminology flip....

(August 18, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:25 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: By fucking the Deity without respecting it as an individual.

Isn't that making the deity the subject of your rape object?

Yep. But I assure you I never have nor never would nor never could rape a deity.

(August 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Isn't that making the deity the subject of your rape object?

Or is this a recent terminology flip....

It's me equivocating to be amusing because this whole conversation is ridiculous because it's about religious beliefs which are all ridiculous.

^__^

(August 18, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Isn't that making the deity the subject of your rape object?

Yep. But I assure you I never have nor never would nor never could rape a deity.

With the Deity I've found, if you could ever touch it, there would be nothing left of you.

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(August 18, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Or is this a recent terminology flip....

It's me equivocating to be amusing because this whole conversation is ridiculous because it's about religious beliefs which are all ridiculous.

^__^

Well I hope it's entertaining and you are enjoying yourself.

(August 18, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Yep. But I assure you I never have nor never would nor never could rape a deity.

With the Deity I've found, if you could ever touch it, there would be nothing left of you.

I'm impressed with your unrevealed knowledge because by not revealing it you have also revealed it...

...Or something else mystical and nonsensical that you religious folks think.

(August 18, 2016 at 8:34 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:33 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: With the Deity I've found, if you could ever touch it, there would be nothing left of you.

I'm impressed with your unrevealed knowledge because by not revealing it you have also revealed it...

...Or something else mystical and nonsensical that you religious folks think.

No, it's objective and absolute. Having real, detectable, measurable influence on all universal phenomenon.

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Also not based on any cultural mythos but there are common themes and parallels.

I hammered it out for myself with pure logic and geometry.

(August 18, 2016 at 8:37 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(August 18, 2016 at 8:34 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I'm impressed with your unrevealed knowledge because by not revealing it you have also revealed it...

...Or something else mystical and nonsensical that you religious folks think.

No, it's objective and absolute. Having real, detectable, measurable influence on all universal phenomenon.

Well I've certainly noticed this deity.

Wait, what is it again?