(September 7, 2016 at 10:52 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 9:31 am)Little Rik Wrote: Wrong once again yog.      

You don't know the meaning of these words.  You just use them as a generic mantra.  Nowhere in your post did you dispute that your excuses were ad hoc, so how on earth can you claim that I was wrong?  You can't sensibly.  Much like the rest of your stuff, these words are nonsense when uttered by you.

(September 7, 2016 at 9:31 am)Little Rik Wrote: Your knowledge in psychology is next to zero and if combined with a total lack of knowledge about yoga then is quite easy to see your skepticism.

To understand what happen during yoga meditation is also important to understand what happen during  the withdrawal symptoms for drug, alcohol smoke or any other addiction.

The body and mind try to stick to the old habit.
Body and mind came to the point that now control you.
You are no longer able to control them and to turn the wheel around is not easy.
Most of the people who try fail.
Only few succeed.
Yoga work along similar lines.
Our materialism, our bad habits (nobody is perfect) and our karma are ingrained in our consciousness.
They refuse to let go.
By practicing yoga you try to turn the wheel around and that is very hard work that only few succeed.
To do this everybody in the beginning have to go through the withdraw symptom.
You may feel that to be a negative symptom.
In effect is a positive sign that progress is possible.

Dr. Shapiro confuse the frustration of doing the hard work which is a positive sign with negative symptoms that is why I said that he is 100% wrong.  

And your evidence of this is....  once again nothing!  Just more blah, blah, blah, I like Yoga!

Where is your evidence for any of the bullshit that you've spewed?   The following is a list of things you need to provide evidence for:
1. that there is such a thing as a 'real guru'
2. that there is a difference in the effectiveness of different mantras
3.  that the negative symptoms Shapiro found were a result of 'hard work' instead of meditation being harmful
4. that meditation is 'effective'
5. that meditation when done right only produces positives
6. karma
7. reincarnation
8. microvita

Of course you're not going to provide evidence for these things because you don't have any.  All we've got from you on these is a bunch of stories.  Without evidence, your stories are no less fairy tales than tales of unicorns and fairy godmothers.  You've got squat.  All you've got is your testimonial that these things are real and true.  There are a thousand scammers on internet and tv and they've got their testimonials too.  Your assertions and testimony are just another scam unless you've got evidence.

Addictions are called such because you lose control of yourself.
You are no longer able to control yourself.
Once you try to turn the wheel around and take control of the situation you feel like you are facing a terrible struggle.
The body and mind make you feel like you are doing the wrong things when in effect is the opposite.
Obviously they need more and more drugs not less.

This is how the system works yog.
This struggle make you feel frustrated and it is easy to think that this is a negative result of the effort that you are making but it is just the opposite.
Every psychologist that is involved in helping addicted people know this.
Shapiro never knew this simple conclusion.
By believing Shapiro you too fall in the trap.

Yoga effort is similar to getting rid of drugs.
The drugs that yoga deal are materialism and all other isms except universalism but considering that you still can not grasp the meanings of the above sentences then is just a waste of time to continue explaining
you other topics.  

(September 8, 2016 at 7:18 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 11:09 am)Stimbo Wrote: And rik -

What part of "I am an atheist" is so hard for you to grasp? It's not down to me to explain why a god would or wouldn't do something.
I can type slower for you, if it'll help.

That is bizarre Stim.
When I take somebody thoughts or beliefs and I present them in a Bio or on my signature without making any comment about the content of the thought then I intend that I do agree with the thought or belief unless is a parody which is not your case.
Apparently for you is a different story.

You reckon that is not necessary to agree with somebody else thought that you put in your Bio and there is no the necessity to make any comment on it.
Bizarre Stim, very very bizarre.

Context, Richard Richard, context. Why do you think the word "God" is presented in quote marks in my bio?

(September 8, 2016 at 9:21 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(September 8, 2016 at 7:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: That is bizarre Stim.
When I take somebody thoughts or beliefs and I present them in a Bio or on my signature without making any comment about the content of the thought then I intend that I do agree with the thought or belief unless is a parody which is not your case.
Apparently for you is a different story.

You reckon that is not necessary to agree with somebody else thought that you put in your Bio and there is no the necessity to make any comment on it.
Bizarre Stim, very very bizarre.

Context, Richard Richard, context. Why do you think the word "God" is presented in quote marks in my bio?

Gee, now the mystery make the whole issue more and more bizarre!  

(September 8, 2016 at 9:35 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 8, 2016 at 9:21 am)Stimbo Wrote: Context, Richard Richard, context. Why do you think the word "God" is presented in quote marks in my bio?

Gee, now the mystery make the whole issue more and more bizarre!  

(September 8, 2016 at 8:29 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 10:52 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You don't know the meaning of these words.  You just use them as a generic mantra.  Nowhere in your post did you dispute that your excuses were ad hoc, so how on earth can you claim that I was wrong?  You can't sensibly.  Much like the rest of your stuff, these words are nonsense when uttered by you.


And your evidence of this is....  once again nothing!  Just more blah, blah, blah, I like Yoga!

Where is your evidence for any of the bullshit that you've spewed?   The following is a list of things you need to provide evidence for:
1. that there is such a thing as a 'real guru'
2. that there is a difference in the effectiveness of different mantras
3.  that the negative symptoms Shapiro found were a result of 'hard work' instead of meditation being harmful
4. that meditation is 'effective'
5. that meditation when done right only produces positives
6. karma
7. reincarnation
8. microvita

Of course you're not going to provide evidence for these things because you don't have any.  All we've got from you on these is a bunch of stories.  Without evidence, your stories are no less fairy tales than tales of unicorns and fairy godmothers.  You've got squat.  All you've got is your testimonial that these things are real and true.  There are a thousand scammers on internet and tv and they've got their testimonials too.  Your assertions and testimony are just another scam unless you've got evidence.

Addictions are called such because you lose control of yourself.
You are no longer able to control yourself.
Once you try to turn the wheel around and take control of the situation you feel like you are facing a terrible struggle.
The body and mind make you feel like you are doing the wrong things when in effect is the opposite.
Obviously they need more and more drugs not less.

This is how the system works yog.
This struggle make you feel frustrated and it is easy to think that this is a negative result of the effort that you are making but it is just the opposite.
Every psychologist that is involved in helping addicted people know this.
Shapiro never knew this simple conclusion.
By believing Shapiro you too fall in the trap.

Yoga effort is similar to getting rid of drugs.
The drugs that yoga deal are materialism and all other isms except universalism but considering that you still can not grasp the meanings of the above sentences then is just a waste of time to continue explaining
you other topics.  

And once again, no evidence. I'm going to start calling you "no evidence" Rik.

(September 8, 2016 at 9:57 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 8, 2016 at 8:29 am)Little Rik Wrote: Addictions are called such because you lose control of yourself.
You are no longer able to control yourself.
Once you try to turn the wheel around and take control of the situation you feel like you are facing a terrible struggle.
The body and mind make you feel like you are doing the wrong things when in effect is the opposite.
Obviously they need more and more drugs not less.

This is how the system works yog.
This struggle make you feel frustrated and it is easy to think that this is a negative result of the effort that you are making but it is just the opposite.
Every psychologist that is involved in helping addicted people know this.
Shapiro never knew this simple conclusion.
By believing Shapiro you too fall in the trap.

Yoga effort is similar to getting rid of drugs.
The drugs that yoga deal are materialism and all other isms except universalism but considering that you still can not grasp the meanings of the above sentences then is just a waste of time to continue explaining
you other topics.  

And once again, no evidence.  I'm going to start calling you "no evidence" Rik.

Let us put the issue in the hands of those who help drug addicted and see who is right and who is wrong.
Are ready to have your shiny ass kicked up?  

(September 8, 2016 at 10:38 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 8, 2016 at 9:57 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: And once again, no evidence.  I'm going to start calling you "no evidence" Rik.

Let us put the issue in the hands of those who help drug addicted and see who is right and who is wrong.
Are ready to have your shiny ass kicked up?  

The subject is meditation, not addiction, asswipe. You can present all the stories in the world about addiction, it doesn't mean squat unless you tie it to meditation with evidence.

(September 8, 2016 at 7:33 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 7, 2016 at 10:57 am)ScienceAf Wrote: Conscience varies, you schmuck.
I'm not fucking evolving anytime soon. Do you see someone leaping up and down as the evolve into a man-frog? Not really.
If you did then fucking congrats dude.

And who says arrogance promotes devolution? Is arrogance hereditary? Will I pick an arrogant wife too that will spread the word to my child(ren)?

It's the cave-dwelling archaic buffoons like you who will "surely" lead mankind to it's devolution.
"No offense."

Imbecile.  

Nothing in this universe is still and changeless.
Nothing.
Everything move and change.
Some slow some fast.
Our consciousness is no exception.
It can evolve or lose what it had.
You may not see these changes but they are there for sure.
For an atheist it matter very little if nothing because with the physical death is all over.
For theists that believe in reincarnation and a goal to reach is a different story.
Devolution is a NO NO.
This to explain my point.
Now you can go back to your usual cocky and arrogance.
Have a good day anyway.

Cunt.

When did I bring up that the universe is still, or changeless?
No shit it's the second law of thermodynamics... Cough* Increase Entropy Cough*
Consciousness doesn't evolve in just 2 generations. It takes multiple small mutations through 50 generations.
And that's not how it works. The way someone thinks is not hereditary. Except Alzheimer's but that doesn't have to do with evolution.
Stop fucking generalizing about a whole group of people who think differently and more rationally. Fix your grammar too.

No it doesn't. When I'm dead and I become one with the Earth my atoms will have spread into your food and feed you and I will give back the energy to the Earth that I have taken from it. My DNA will have spread onwards and I will live on within the next generation of humans.

Maybe they'll be smarter than me and you...
Forget about the magical sky daddy who let billions die.

And I don't care about what your tiny head believes. Just don't force it upon others. Not even verbally.

And atleast I was open minded enough to change my stupid beliefs.

Have a good day too.

God is described in every religion almost the same way - the manifestation of brutality and demands for excellent behavior. He is so brutal, that many people arent inspired to worship religious ideals of servitude and instead try to embrace death, even if the have doubts on whatever there is God. This is what Lucifer, Adam and Eve done. And I feel them.

(September 8, 2016 at 7:33 am)Little Rik Wrote: Imbecile.  

This makes me literally LOL for some reason.

I'm easily entertained.