(May 20, 2011 at 8:24 pm)tackattack Wrote: I actually do believe in the rapture Void. I also know fully well that I won't ever see it coming if it even comes when I'm alive. I also know full well it does me no good worrying or hoping for it. I believe it will happen, I know I don't know when. I'm not trying to convince anyone of it, and as it doesn't affect my daily decisions or thinking, I don't see where it's any affect to anyone but I. When it happens, it'll be too late to rethink your position most likely.

(May 21, 2011 at 12:25 am)theVOID Wrote:

(May 20, 2011 at 8:24 pm)tackattack Wrote: I actually do believe in the rapture Void. I also know fully well that I won't ever see it coming if it even comes when I'm alive. I also know full well it does me no good worrying or hoping for it. I believe it will happen, I know I don't know when. I'm not trying to convince anyone of it, and as it doesn't affect my daily decisions or thinking, I don't see where it's any affect to anyone but I. When it happens, it'll be too late to rethink your position most likely.

I'm worried about your mental health.

(May 21, 2011 at 2:04 am)tackattack Wrote: I should be a little more specific I suppose. I do not believe in the premillenialism concept of rapture. I do believe Christ is coming, I don't think they'll be some secret group of "Christians" that get to skip out on the end times. I don't think it's supported scripturally and I think it was some Anglican Catholic thing.

Quote:In the middle 1820’s a religious environment began to be established among a few Christians in London, England which proved to be the catalyst from which the doctrine of the Rapture emerged. Expectations of the soon coming of our Lord were being voiced. This was no new thing, but what was unusual was the teaching by a Presbyterian minister named Edward Irving that there had to be a restoration of the spiritual gifts mentioned in 1 Corinthians chapters 12–14 just before Christ’s Second Advent. To Irving, the time had come for those spiritual manifestations to occur. Among the expected gifts was the renewal of speaking in tongues and of prophetic utterances motivated by the spirit.

Irving began to propagate his beliefs. His oratorical skills and enthusiasm caused his congregation in London to grow. Then a number of people began to experience the “gifts.” Once this happened, opposition from the organized churches set in. It resulted in Irving’s dismissal from the Presbyterian Church in 1832. His group established themselves as the Catholic Apostolic Church and continued the teachings of Irving. These events were the beginnings of what some call present day Pentecostalism. Some church historians referred to Irving as “the father of modern Pentecostalism.”

Quote:The doctrine of a secret rapture was first conceived by John Nelson Darby of the Plymouth Brethren in 1827. Darby, known as the father of dispensationalism, invented the doctrine claiming there were not one, but two "second comings."

(May 21, 2011 at 2:04 am)tackattack Wrote: I should be a little more specific I suppose. I do not believe in the premillenialism concept of rapture. I do believe Christ is coming, I don't think they'll be some secret group of "Christians" that get to skip out on the end times. I don't think it's supported scripturally and I think it was some Anglican Catholic thing.

I appreciate the concern, but I'm fine

(May 21, 2011 at 6:47 am)tackattack Wrote: Actually I was talking about the "demonic rantings" of Margaret Macdonald and family which led to Darby's interpretation or the rapture. Darby was a Brethren. Scofield made it popular in America by printing a Bible extoling Darby's writtings in it. It started though clearly with those crazy scotsman. Which I beleive were Anglical Catholics.