(September 14, 2016 at 10:43 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 13, 2016 at 3:53 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: How do you know that the brain holds the consciousness of a person? In the way that you said, that it's free when we die. And if it's free, how do we go to hell?

Why should you go to hell?
Do you believe what religions say?
Don't boy, really don't.
There are two things that God can not do.
One of this thing is that he-she can not hate anyone.
By sending someone to hell hate is involved and that is not possible.
A perfect entity like God can not possibly create something or someone that later on will be
discarded in the rubbish bin or as religions say HELL.
In some cases there is a hell but that is a mental hell and it is only temporary until the problem-s are sorted out.
If you read Howard Storm experience as he see God he feel ashamed for what he did and for how he
is in that particular stage in his life.
That is a mental hell that will be sorted out by changing his life.
Nothing permanent, nothing physical as religions describe so forget about hell.
As far as you do your best there will not be any type of hell.  

If he can't then why is he perfect?

(September 14, 2016 at 12:17 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 10:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: When you have your dreams your brain is alive and well but when you have an NDE experience your brain is dead.

You've been asked this before and you didn't answer.  How do you know that the NDE occurred while the patient's brain function appeared absent?  How do you know the NDE didn't occur as brain function was returning to the patient?  You're just assuming the experience occurred while they were flatlined.  How do you know that's when the NDE occurred?

Fool.  

The reason why I suggest to you to read these NDEs experiences is because a lot of them happen
when the person lie dead in the casualty room.
Doctors declare the person dead but the guy that experience the NDE see his-her body lie dead below.

How the hell could the experience be felt while the brain function was returning to the patient if the person see his-her body dead below?
Are you that dumb?

(September 15, 2016 at 9:54 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 12:17 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You've been asked this before and you didn't answer.  How do you know that the NDE occurred while the patient's brain function appeared absent?  How do you know the NDE didn't occur as brain function was returning to the patient?  You're just assuming the experience occurred while they were flatlined.  How do you know that's when the NDE occurred?

Fool.  

The reason why I suggest to you to read these NDEs experiences is because a lot of them happen
when the person lie dead in the casualty room.
Doctors declare the person dead but the guy that experience the NDE see his-her body lie dead below.

How the hell could the experience be felt while the brain function was returning to the patient if the person see his-her body dead below?
Are you that dumb?

Maybe because the person isn't actually seeing their dead body below.  Again, you're assuming that the report of the experience reflects reality.  You have no reason to assume this, you do so only because it fits your presuppositions.  And even there you are inconsistent, as NDEs recount both a real heaven and a real hell, both of which you discount.  You simply cherry pick the accounts you want to believe.

I'm through talking NDEs with you.  You introduced them as evidence of karma and reincarnation and they are evidence of neither.  End of story.

(September 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm)ScienceAf Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 10:43 am)Little Rik Wrote: Why should you go to hell?
Do you believe what religions say?
Don't boy, really don't.
There are two things that God can not do.
One of this thing is that he-she can not hate anyone.
By sending someone to hell hate is involved and that is not possible.
A perfect entity like God can not possibly create something or someone that later on will be
discarded in the rubbish bin or as religions say HELL.
In some cases there is a hell but that is a mental hell and it is only temporary until the problem-s are sorted out.
If you read Howard Storm experience as he see God he feel ashamed for what he did and for how he
is in that particular stage in his life.
That is a mental hell that will be sorted out by changing his life.
Nothing permanent, nothing physical as religions describe so forget about hell.
As far as you do your best there will not be any type of hell.  

If he can't then why is he perfect?

The reason why God can not hate anybody is because that body is his own body.
According to yoga God's creation happen in his own mind.
Nothing is external to him.
By hating someone in his mental creation he would have to hate himself which it would means
that his creation is not perfect.
Just think when you think of something in your mind.
Would you hit your head on the wall just because in your mental creation there is something wrong?
Have you ever bang your head on the wall?
Why then God should?  

(September 15, 2016 at 10:04 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 9:54 am)Little Rik Wrote: Fool.  

The reason why I suggest to you to read these NDEs experiences is because a lot of them happen
when the person lie dead in the casualty room.
Doctors declare the person dead but the guy that experience the NDE see his-her body lie dead below.

How the hell could the experience be felt while the brain function was returning to the patient if the person see his-her body dead below?
Are you that dumb?

Maybe because the person isn't actually seeing their dead body below.  Again, you're assuming that the report of the experience reflects reality.  You have no reason to assume this, you do so only because it fits your presuppositions.  And even there you are inconsistent, as NDEs recount both a real heaven and a real hell, both of which you discount.  You simply cherry pick the accounts you want to believe.

I'm through talking NDEs with you.  You introduced them as evidence of karma and reincarnation and they are evidence of neither.  End of story.

You have no reason to assume this, you do so only because it fits your ATHEISTIC presuppositions.


Spot on yog.

(September 15, 2016 at 10:19 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 10:04 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Maybe because the person isn't actually seeing their dead body below.  Again, you're assuming that the report of the experience reflects reality.  You have no reason to assume this, you do so only because it fits your presuppositions.  And even there you are inconsistent, as NDEs recount both a real heaven and a real hell, both of which you discount.  You simply cherry pick the accounts you want to believe.

I'm through talking NDEs with you.  You introduced them as evidence of karma and reincarnation and they are evidence of neither.  End of story.

You have no reason to assume this, you do so only because it fits your ATHEISTIC presuppositions.


Spot on yog.  

This is your response to everything. You're right because atheists are wrong. That's nothing but an argument from ignorance, but it's the only argument you've got.

You return to it time and again.

I'm not the one replying to a request for evidence, dumbass. I have no burden of proof here. You do. So your claim that I assume this is just pure misdirection, which appears to be the only intuitive science you're familiar with. I don't 'assume' that these experiences don't reflect reality, I've simply been given no reason from you to believe that they do. So you can take your tu quoque and shove it up your ass. It's invalid, like so much of the rest of your shit.

You simply can't handle the truth that NDEs are evidence only that people have a memory of an experience, and that memory isn't necessarily based in reality, much as you'd like to believe "according to Yoga." People who take LSD have psychedelic experiences; their experiences aren't evidence of an altered reality. You haven't given any reason for believing these experiences are 'real' other than "because you want to believe." And even there you've been dishonest by believing certain NDE experiences "on the basis of Yoga," while discounting other equally prominent themes. You're a wishful thinking, two-faced, folklore believing, red herring filled, cherry picking asshole. And your so called "evidence" is nothing of the sort.

According to yoga. *snort*

(September 15, 2016 at 10:07 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: If he can't then why is he perfect?

The reason why God can not hate anybody is because that body is his own body.
According to yoga God's creation happen in his own mind.
Nothing is external to him.
By hating someone in his mental creation he would have to hate himself which it would means
that his creation is not perfect.
Just think when you think of something in your mind.
Would you hit your head on the wall just because in your mental creation there is something wrong?
Have you ever bang your head on the wall?
Why then God should?  

Grammar.

And, still he can't do something that I can.
Just like how I can lie and he "can't"

(September 15, 2016 at 10:47 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're a wishful thinking, two-faced, folklore believing, red herring filled, cherry picking asshole.  And your so called "evidence" is nothing of the sort.

  Twice in one week someone has given me an idea for my signature, should I decide to change it! Naturally, sources will be acknowledged.

(September 15, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 10:47 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're a wishful thinking, two-faced, folklore believing, red herring filled, cherry picking asshole.  And your so called "evidence" is nothing of the sort.

  Twice in one week someone has given me an idea for my signature, should I decide to change it! Naturally, sources will be acknowledged.

What the hell. I'll go with both.

(September 15, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(September 15, 2016 at 10:47 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You're a wishful thinking, two-faced, folklore believing, red herring filled, cherry picking asshole.  And your so called "evidence" is nothing of the sort.

  Twice in one week someone has given me an idea for my signature, should I decide to change it! Naturally, sources will be acknowledged.

Derd you forgot the quotation marks on the signature