Can we as a society stop pretending that saying "You shouldn't get blackout wasted." is somehow victim blaming? I'm not saying if you get totally smashed you getting raped is your fault. However going out and getting blackout drunk does put yourself at risk. And not drinking to excess does minimize risk if you're aware of what's going on around you. That being said rape is no one's fault but the rapist. But let's stop pretending that telling people to drink responsibly is this awful thing.

um . . . .

we're plunging into a vat of 12 Steppers poo

Agreed.

An ounce of prevention...is your responsibility. (talking about drinking related rape)
If you are going to move into a shady neighborhood, don't leave the doors open at night.


Rapists are like predatory animals looking for prey....if your the stumbling, sickly, weak looking one, who do you think they are going to target?

Never forget that the world has a thin veneer of civilization and in many places and people it's completely worn through....and people suffer for the ignorance thereof.

(September 18, 2016 at 7:42 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Can we as a society stop pretending that saying "You shouldn't get blackout wasted." is somehow victim blaming? I'm not saying if you get totally smashed you getting raped is your fault. However going out and getting blackout drunk does put yourself at risk. And not drinking to excess does minimize risk if you're aware of what's going on around you. That being said rape is no one's fault but the rapist. But let's stop pretending that telling people to drink responsibly is this awful thing.

I've always heard nothing but good things coming from the advice of drinking responsibility, aka, PSA ads. Isn't that the entire point of those things? To advocate for being responsible if you drink.

(September 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:

(September 18, 2016 at 7:42 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Can we as a society stop pretending that saying "You shouldn't get blackout wasted." is somehow victim blaming? I'm not saying if you get totally smashed you getting raped is your fault. However going out and getting blackout drunk does put yourself at risk. And not drinking to excess does minimize risk if you're aware of what's going on around you. That being said rape is no one's fault but the rapist. But let's stop pretending that telling people to drink responsibly is this awful thing.

I've always heard nothing but good things coming from the advice of drinking responsibility, aka, PSA ads. Isn't that the entire point of those things? To advocate for being responsible if you drink.

Yeah it's just in a few of my feminist circles I've actually been shouted down with "I deserve to have a good time." and "I'll drink as much as I want to." Which I find utterly ridiculous. Having a good time shouldn't include drinking yourself unconscious.

Agreed. I never really saw the point of drinking like that to begin with. You end up bowing down to the porcelain goddess and you feel like shit the whole next day.

What kind of fun is that?

(September 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:

(September 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: I've always heard nothing but good things coming from the advice of drinking responsibility, aka, PSA ads. Isn't that the entire point of those things? To advocate for being responsible if you drink.

Yeah it's just in a few of my feminist circles I've actually been shouted down with "I deserve to have a good time." and "I'll drink as much as I want to." Which I find utterly ridiculous. Having a good time shouldn't include drinking yourself unconscious.

While I agree that "don't get blackout drunk if you want to be able to protect yourself" is good advice, telling someone how to have a good time isn't. If someone finds blackout drunk to be a good time, who is anyone to tell them otherwise? 

You do you.

(September 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:

(September 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: I've always heard nothing but good things coming from the advice of drinking responsibility, aka, PSA ads. Isn't that the entire point of those things? To advocate for being responsible if you drink.

Yeah it's just in a few of my feminist circles I've actually been shouted down with "I deserve to have a good time." and "I'll drink as much as I want to." Which I find utterly ridiculous. Having a good time shouldn't include drinking yourself unconscious.

Yeah, since when is it fun to drink until you black out? Why on earth would that be anyone's goal for their night? [emoji848]

(September 18, 2016 at 8:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(September 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Yeah it's just in a few of my feminist circles I've actually been shouted down with "I deserve to have a good time." and "I'll drink as much as I want to." Which I find utterly ridiculous. Having a good time shouldn't include drinking yourself unconscious.

Yeah, since when is it fun to drink until you black out?   Why on earth would that be anyone's goal for their night?  [emoji848]

To forget.

(September 18, 2016 at 8:46 pm)The_Empress Wrote:

(September 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: Yeah it's just in a few of my feminist circles I've actually been shouted down with "I deserve to have a good time." and "I'll drink as much as I want to." Which I find utterly ridiculous. Having a good time shouldn't include drinking yourself unconscious.

While I agree that "don't get blackout drunk if you want to be able to protect yourself" is good advice, telling someone how to have a good time isn't. If someone finds blackout drunk to be a good time, who is anyone to tell them otherwise? 

You do you.

The problem is when you get black out drunk, you're incapable of doing you and you run the risk of someone else doing you. You've drank away your ability to say no.

You might want to get a "Don't touch me!" anti-rape bracelet from Sweden.