Alright so the other night I got a little too stoned and began rambling to my roommate about how karma is a natural force in the universe that also adheres to the conservation law like energy. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense now...

(October 25, 2016 at 10:05 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 25, 2016 at 9:53 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Chimp isn't making any claims, so he doesn't have to provide you with evidence.  He is saying he wouldn't assume YOUR claim is true without evidence.  Again, got any?

I rely on logic Lady.
Read my previous post in which I explain why karma is a logic outcome while good or bad luck is not.  

Logic is a great place to start, but you also need actual supporting evidence, otherwise you haven't properly demonstrated your claim. Got any?

(October 25, 2016 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 24, 2016 at 11:10 am)Astreja Wrote: First of all, can't you fucking spell My name properly?

The karma hypothesis fails on its own due to lack of supporting evidence.  I don't have to do an in-depth analysis to see that it's crap.  If you're making the positive claim, it falls to you to support it with evidence.

Logic prevail Astreja.

Take two people.
One born in a positive situation.
The next born in negative one.

According to your logic it is all about good or bad luck like in a lottery.
According to me there is a good reason which is that in previous lives these two people build up their future in the good or bad and this make sense as life teach us that everything come due to our own efforts.

Also, can you explain how this is "logic"?

So you have two tasks ahead of you now Rick:

1. Demonstrate some sound logic

2. Back it up with evidence

I'll be waiting.

(October 25, 2016 at 10:05 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 25, 2016 at 9:53 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Chimp isn't making any claims, so he doesn't have to provide you with evidence.  He is saying he wouldn't assume YOUR claim is true without evidence.  Again, got any?

I rely on logic Lady.
Read my previous post in which I explain why karma is a logic outcome while good or bad luck is not.  

Logic? Your "logic" was that you can't even get evidence because karma exists is in another dimension; but since you want mystical forces to be true, you have to dismiss the simple truth that it is nothing but chance.

(October 25, 2016 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: If you expect evidence however that is not easy to get.
Human beings are stuck in the physical dimension and the karma lie in a different dimension
not accessible by human beings that is why humans best option is to rely on logic and logic tell us that
good or bad luck play no role in how we born.  

You're a crank.

(October 25, 2016 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: Logic prevail Astreja.

Take two people.
One born in a positive situation.
The next born in negative one.

According to your logic it is all about good or bad luck like in a lottery.
According to me there is a good reason which is that in previous lives these two people build up their future in the good or bad and this make sense as life teach us that everything come due to our own efforts.

If you expect evidence however that is not easy to get.
Human beings are stuck in the physical dimension and the karma lie in a different dimension
not accessible by human beings that is why humans best option is to rely on logic and logic tell us that
good or bad luck play no role in how we born.  

I do not believe in previous lives. I do believe, however, that there is a social homeostasis in place that causes poverty to perpetuate across multiple generations.  A child is born into poverty because the parents are poor, not because of something the child did in some other life.

It has very little to do with luck, and everything to do with human behaviour.

(October 25, 2016 at 10:58 am)Astreja Wrote:

(October 25, 2016 at 9:42 am)Little Rik Wrote: Logic prevail Astreja.

Take two people.
One born in a positive situation.
The next born in negative one.

According to your logic it is all about good or bad luck like in a lottery.
According to me there is a good reason which is that in previous lives these two people build up their future in the good or bad and this make sense as life teach us that everything come due to our own efforts.

If you expect evidence however that is not easy to get.
Human beings are stuck in the physical dimension and the karma lie in a different dimension
not accessible by human beings that is why humans best option is to rely on logic and logic tell us that
good or bad luck play no role in how we born.  

I do not believe in previous lives. I do believe, however, that there is a social homeostasis in place that causes poverty to perpetuate across multiple generations.  A child is born into poverty because the parents are poor, not because of something the child did in some other life.

It has very little to do with luck, and everything to do with human behaviour.

Only your last sentence make sense Astreja.
All the rest is all about guessing.

Life teach us that nothing come for free.
We as individual build up what we got.
If we born from poor parents is because we fit in that particular jigsaw puzzle.
Nothing really to do with the bad luck to be born in a poor situation.  

(October 25, 2016 at 10:19 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: So you have two tasks ahead of you now Rick:

1. Demonstrate some sound logic

2. Back it up with evidence

I'll be waiting.
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Logic is all about what make sense.

The chances that the universe exist after billions of years due to luck are next to zero therefore
it is obvious that a mind run it.
Atheism is all based on guessing and nothing else.
Atheism also rely most of the time on physical science and it is this science that contradict atheism.

You never thought about that Lady, did you?  

Nothing is dead in this universe.
Even a stone vibrate.
There is energy and a dormant consciousness even in what seems dead.
The very science that atheism rely upon will soon give the magic kick to that trifle called atheism.  

Karma is a religious invention to make sure the slaves remain obedient out of fear of what's gonna happen to them in the next life.

(October 26, 2016 at 8:25 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 25, 2016 at 10:19 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: So you have two tasks ahead of you now Rick:

1. Demonstrate some sound logic

2. Back it up with evidence

I'll be waiting.
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Logic is all about what make sense.

The chances that the universe exist after billions of years due to luck are next to zero therefore
it is obvious that a mind run it.
Atheism is all based on guessing and nothing else.
Atheism also rely most of the time on physical science and it is this science that contradict atheism.

You never thought about that Lady, did you?  

Nothing is dead in this universe.
Even a stone vibrate.
There is energy and a dormant consciousness even in what seems dead.
The very science that atheism rely upon will soon give the magic kick to that trifle called atheism.  

Literally (and I detest the use of that word in most cases) every assertion in that post is total and utter rubbish........the polar opposite of what's true in fact.

You've outdone yourself.