(October 28, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Drich Wrote:

Quote:Atheist's feel insecure when you question their god of 'science' as well.

Science is a way to assess evidence without letting your preconceived ideas or prejudices get in the way of establishing the facts. Of course you wont like it, preconceived ideas and prejudices are all you have.  

Quote:well, when you show their faith in 'science' is no different in your faith in god they loose their ablity to control themseves too.

Science is different because every aspect of science can be supported by facts and evidence. I know you are a fact free zone but. Also the word is "lose" loose describes a jar lid that has already been taken off and not put back properly.

Quote:4.      Because being an atheist is too easy and therefore boring

Quote:You could always turn to trolling. I've noticed Many simple minded atheists do this when they get board. It is kinda the flagship reason atheist join religious discussions of anykind.

"Bored"

Quote:Good news! You don't need religion, all you need is a belt and a strong desire to do what is best for the child.

I'd quite forgotten the bible advocates child abuse,Thanks for reminding me.

Quote:I my experience with atheist's this is the reason they are so impassioned with what they don't believe.. For me, when someone says thor is real and is god, i say fine.. or if i want to talk comics I ask which version, and then discuss but in the end refuse to die on any argument concerning thor.(Meaning I don't let it get out of hand)

But people who kinda like Batman do not live their life by the way of Bruce Wayne. They do not oppress others on the basis of the laws of DC. Christians and other groups of theists inflict their delusions on others and that's were I get involved. Remember dude you came to an atheist site.

Quote:But the atheist seem to have to say God is not real ,God is not real... and when anyone challenges they must try and squash that person completely because they don't want to question or doubt the "god is not real" chant otherwise I think, they like you doubt themselves/feel guilt.

I can confidently say that god is not real due to the complete lack of any evidence to support its existence. I find it sad that in this day and age anyone gives it any credence at all.

Quote:That's not a god thing that is a I don't believe in killing babies thing. You don't have to believe in God to say it is wrong to kill babies.

Say it with me "abortions are not killing babies"

Quote:9.      Because I don’t want to go to hell if it exists

Quote:Neither do most atheists, so they come here and polish what i call their judgement day defense strategy. This basically means they work on an argument that shows God to be unjust, or rather in contradiction to some perceived attribute, that would make him unjust/not God, and by showing God this paradox on their judgement day they will force him to let them into heaven. Or at the very least shame him from sending them to Hell.

No I do not believe that hell is a thing its a real. This Atheists are secretly afraid of god/hell talk is based on a misunderstanding. I do not believe and have never believed in any of it. I suppose this is because you live in a place where your view is not abnormal. But I live in the UK and religious people are the exception, the few that are around are more or less left to their own delusions.

Quote:10.  Because many people are religious

Quote:Well Atheism is a religion as well. It has an orgins story, It mandates one take a position on God, it shares common core beliefs and systems of belief. It even has 'churches of sorts..' (Don't look now but your in one)

All this time here and you still do not understand what an atheist is.

Quote:11.  Because If I was an atheist I would kill anyone in my family, if they annoy me. But religion keeps me under control.

Quote:Again since atheism is a religion you could easily adopt it's version of righteousness. You don't need God for that.

Atheism is an answer to a question. "do I believe in god?" "I do not!" stop trying to drag it down to your level. 

Quote:Again, atheist have an similar issue in that they cant seem to understand how the universe exists with a creator. To create does not make sense to them. They cant seem to grasp the fundamentals of design and planning. They need to believe out of pure random chaos of an tremendous explosion comes order. So much so they spent billions and billions of dollars and built a huge supercolider, because they were so certain this fundemental principle of their faith was true, and have several years of running experiements where they are supposedly recreating this phenomiom central to their faith destroying quadtrillions upon quadtrillions of helium atoms in the process... what did they find? That their theory is 100% correct! only you need their machine to see it happen.. only you can't see it, you have to trust the machine.. Oh but, the machine can't see it either it can only show the decaying subatomic particals of the evidence that their theory is correct...

So what I get from this is because science does not know everything yet, therefore god.

I take a more pragmatic view.

There is a question of how the universe originated. Currently we do not have the tools to discover how it began.

The chances of the universe being started by some creature that shares features with the Abrahamic god, zero.

What Yahweh or whatever people are calling the creater myth these days was was a thing similar to all religions a creation myth. Something to tell the kids about  why we are here. Just so stories if you will. Like how the Girrafe got ites neck.

Quote:But it is correct because 'science!'
It's the same confusion/mental block they make fun of christians for having, just for the other side of the arguement. If you could simply admit yours is a faith based narrative,

Science is the opposite of a faith based narrative.
Given the right tools you can check that it is true.
Whenever people have tried to check the religious narrative against facts they have had to move their god somewhere else so that now it has moved to a realm it has been made impossible to check for.
A sign that it does not exist.
 

Quote:just like theirs is a faith based narrative as well then all of that goes away. (Unless you were a atheist, because their narrative is all about truth and all of this shows them to be steeped in faith.) But because you are christian, you can assimilate whatever the current theory is and not have your 'spiritual identity' questioned for believing or disbelieving the current popular science theory or not

You make me sad Drich. A twenty first century man with the scientific literacy of a Neanderthal.

Quote:18.  Because I can’t find an reasonable argument against God’s existence

Quote:All any honest person need do, is change their definition of reasonable and deny the faith it takes to accept their new definition, then one is forced to adopt that 'science' even fringe science is as stable as the 'science' that makes cell phones work. (you believe that? one of these talking monkey cousins told me that lol) So in essence, all anyone must do is, deny the faith one must have in 'science' then anything can become 'reasonable.

"Deny the faith one must have in science" You are really a good example of anti intellectualism and why the US is doomed.

Quote:20.  Because I am debating and this makes me feel God exists

Quote:The legitmacy of 'science' is also based on feeling. how one 'feels' about the explanation concerning what is or is not deemed 'proof.' otherwise 'science' would not have to work so hard to suppress unpopular theories.

Such a short sentence with so much wrong with it. By unpopular theories I take it mean areas where the facts do not conform with your prejudices. I am thinking probably intelligent design. But who knows with Drich.

Quote:No, God proves God. If you ever want an audience simply Ask, Seek and knock for Him on his terms as outlines in luke 11. For those who do not know God, your way (the things listed here) can easily be toppled with another interpretation of said evidence. and depending on who you are with and you ablity to resist peer pressure your faith will hang in the balance.

People who look for faith normally find a faith of one sort or another. My wife for example looked for faith, rejected Christianity and is a spiritualist. She asked soght and knocked and the spirits answered apparently.

Quote:Well, if you were atheist you'd undoubtedly be subscribing to the revisionist histories and would think the opposite. But if you can primary source your own research and do not depend on others to teach you history you can still have access to the truth.

The west was hugely influenced by Christianity. It was why it had such a long dark age. Only now is the damage inflicted by the centuries of believing a lie coming to an end.

Dude, learn to quote posts.

Jesus Christy @ the blocks of text in this thread o_O

(October 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm)ThePrick Wrote: 1.      Because I feel Insecure without God
2.      I can’t control how I feel without God
3.      Because Atheists support gays and I don’t
4.      Because being an atheist is too easy and therefore boring
5.      Because my parents can’t control me without religion and I won’t be able to on my kids.
6.      Because I feel some sort of guilt not following God
7.      Because Atheists like abortion and I don’t
8.      Because being an atheist makes me feel like hell
9.      Because I don’t want to go to hell if it exists
10.  Because many people are religious
11.  Because If I was an atheist I would kill anyone in my family, if they annoy me. But religion keeps me under control.
12.  But If do kill them, then I would feel guilty and that guilt proves God.
13.  Because I can’t understand how all this universe just randomly came into existence from nothing, what makes sense to me is that God created it.
14.  Because the internet makes me feel like God exists.
15.  Because If am an atheist I would be always be worried with the question, what if I am wrong and God exists then I don’t want to be on God’s Bad side.
16.  Because planet earth is boring, including sex which only lasts 5 minutes
17.  Many people have testimony about their experience with God.
18.  Because I can’t find an reasonable argument against God’s existence
19.  Out of existence the highest form of existence is God.
20.  Because I am debating and this makes me feel God exists
21.  Which God?- I Believe  the Christian God since, the bible can be proven archeologically and prophetically, and morally and historically and how it improves people. Miracles prove God.
22.  The Western Civilization is the most power fullest in history, which was influenced and built up by Christianity. 
23.  I could go on, but I like to stop here because I know very well that you know God exists but pretend he doesn't
---ThePrick

Aaand I just got myself a new copypasta

Well meme'd sir, well meme'd

Lol, my personal favorite was #11.

(October 27, 2016 at 6:16 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(October 27, 2016 at 5:24 pm)Asmodee Wrote: Why I don't want to be an atheist:
1. Because then I would have to think about things instead of having someone tell me what to think
2. Because it would make my mommy cry
3. Because I don't want to worship the devil
4. Because the though of sacrificing animals makes me queasy
5. Because I don't want to kill people
6. Because the devil is scary
7. Because when I think of death I poop a little
8. Because I'm really scared of things I don't understand
9. Because science is so hard!
10. Seriously, there's a lot of weird math in science!
11. Because it's so much easier to pretend things are going to be all right instead of having to fix them
12. Are you calling my mommy a liar?
13. Because the priest will call me into his office...alone...for a long time...alone...
14. Because I like to sing but I'm not good enough for karaoke, but at church you can't stop me
15. Because people at my church HAVE TO be my friend
16. Because I'm angry that gay people get to be gay even though I don't like it and if I didn't have religion as an excuse I'd just be an asshole
17. Because I want to feel like I know lots and lots of things but I don't actually want to learn stuff
18. Because atheists have to look up facts and stuff instead of just blindly repeating things they heard as fact and that seem hard
19. Because then I wouldn't be super special
20. Because when people make me mad I like to imagine my friend lighting them on fire and believe it's really going to happen so that I know that they will pay for making me mad
21. Because I really want to be a jerk to people who disagree with me and if I was an atheist I wouldn't get to pretend it was God's will, not just that I'm a petty dickhead
22. Because the world is scary and I'm scared of it so I need a super special friend to protect me
23. I could go on, but I like to stop here because I know very well that God is going to hurt you for making me mad anyway

I like this, my turn for some satire:

Why I don't want to be an atheist:

1. Because it hurts my whiny little mind to deny the existence of a Sky Daddy:
2. Because God is a dude and dudes have never fucked things up all over the fucking place.
3. Because I'm lazy and I don't like to think.
4. Because I'm lazy and I do like to preach.
5. Because I like the forgiveness of Jesus. I also like the way his dad likes to slaughter everyone to fucking death.
6. Because I don't know how to even spell comon senss.
7. Because my parents taught me that I'm a really shitty person and should feel guilty because God says so. And how can God say so and tell them so if he doesn't exist to tell them to guilt trip me?
8. Because circular reasoning reminds me of circles and circles reminds me of going round and round in a circle and that reminds me of a loop and a loop reminds me of how utterly fucking loopy I am to believe in such utter fucking shite.
9. because 9 squared is 81 and I like the number 81. And this is the 9th reason for why I don't want to be an atheist and 9 is the square route of that number that I like that I just mentioned. And only lovely old God with his cute fluffy beard floating on up high in the sky (with his face and body attached to it no doubt) would compel me to insert the beauty of my square route of my favey wavey number right here into this post.
10. Because this is the 10th reason and the number 10 makes me think of the 10th commandment WHICH GOD MADE.
11. Because "God" is "dog" backwards. A dog bit me once. Only Satan would allow such things. And God made Satan SO THERE!
12. Because being an atheist would require for me to deny the beautiful proof of all this obviousness for why God exists. He exist because... oh shut up and just let me whine and preach wholly babble. Oh! I mean the Holy Bible! The Holy Bible.
13. Because atheism is for people who like a kind of theism. How can atheism be a kind of theism? That makes no sense so therefore God exists and atheists are dumb.
14. Because I would rather have a brain transplant with an amoeba than be an atheist. Many of my friends say I've already had such a transplant but those friends aren't true friends because they're silly atheists who don't believe in my Sky Daddy.
15. Because atheism is for thinkers. "Thinkers" rhymes with "blinkers". I don't want my blinkers on. I want my thinkers on because I want to think, not like those silly dumb atheists.
16. Because being an atheist would mean to contradict myself less. I don't like contradicting myself less. I like to do it less often instead.
17. I don't want to be an atheist because evolution can not be realz. I mean, come on, how the hell could a fish evolve into an ostrich? We don't even SEE THEM MATING TOGETHER IN DISNEY MOVIES.
18. Because being an atheist means finding meaning in my life without delusion. Delusion is fun so why would I want that?
19. Because being an atheist means having my own values instead of taking it from religion. I like religion so I want meaning from there instead. Religion is great because it makes me feel all wibbly in my underwear when people preach utter fucking bullshit.
20. I could never be an atheist because this is the 20th reason why I couldn't be and 20 is double 10, 10 makes me think of 10 commandments again and God made that. Silly atheist.... DO YOU NEVER LEARN HOW TO READ THE BABBLE!
21. I like cheese.
22. The four horsemen of the Apocalypse is proof of God. They came until that anti-theistic alcoholic excellent debating journalist one that told me how bullshitty my religion is died. Anyways, four horsemen is proof of God. Especially when God killed one of them for using too much logical thinking and telling me why I'm so silly for believing in my religious shite.
23. Because I mean, seriously, I can't understand why I'd ever want to be an atheist. God would want me to understand if there was truly a reason. So there's no reason to be an atheist, and that lack of a reason is the best reason to never be one.
24. Because my mother told me atheism is silly.
25. Because my father told my mother to tell me atheism is silly.
26. Because God likes it when I believe in him and he hates atheism because he said the fool said in their heart that there is no silly Sky Daddy who sucks donkey balls through his power of nonexistence.
27. Because my uncle told me atheism is silly. I believe him. He gets drunk a lot and writes poetry. Poets are fun when drunk. Only God would allow such fun, and God disapproveth of atheism.
28. I could never be an atheist because I'm not an atheist so it wouldn't be me if I'd be an atheist it would be a person who wasn't one.
29. Because I like fallacies. I like to make all those fallacies why atheism is silly in addition to other fallacies. That addition in fallacies means extra fallacies. I like extra fallacies because I like extra things I like and fallacies I like.
30. I once met a man called Jacob. Jacob is in the Bible. Really, he is, go look. No seriously, he is, I'm not even making this up. Go read it now. You won't? Why not? That makes me sad you'll forever be an atheist and I don't want to be sad like you so I won't be an atheist.
31. I met a friend who became an atheist shortly after losing his faith. He was having an identity crisis and was very unhappy for a week. After that week until the day he died he found meaning in his life without God and was very happy, well up until the age of 96. But I want to ignore the happy part and focus on that week when he was unhappy after losing his faith because God wants me to be biased in his favor like that. So to me I just think of unhappy atheists because I ignore all the years when they're happy and focus on one bad week. This applies to all the atheists who have bad moments, not just this one friend I had who stopped being my friend after he lost his faith because I'm a religious sanctimonious judgemental shithead like that.... I can't be like those atheists with unhappy moments I focus on. Unhappy moments aren't nice. I want to be nice. That's why I end friendships when someone loses their faith because I'm a judgemental cunt.
32. Because being an atheist hurts my balls. I mean, I don't get ball pain and I'm not an atheist so if I was an atheist instead I WOULD get ballsy ballsy balls balls balls bollock pain... right? Right?!?! RIGHT?!?!?!
33: Because the previous reason was "32". That's 10 less than 42... 42 is the reason for life the universe and everything and 10 is biblical because 10 commandments. 32 is 10 LESS THAN 42 so that means 42 is less important than the 10 commandments because Christian logic. Why would I want to give up on my Christian logic by being a silly atheist?

LMAO! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

My favorites here are 3, 4, 8, and 21.

(October 28, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Drich Wrote: Well Atheism is a religion as well. It has an orgins story, It mandates one take a position on God, it shares common core beliefs and systems of belief. It even has 'churches of sorts..'

So that's why you're such an uneducated twit. You just proclaim science as just another false religion like Islam, Hare-Krishna, Catholicism...

Can you imagine this guy at something like math class:

(October 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm)ThePrick Wrote: 1.      Because I feel Insecure without God
2.      I can’t control how I feel without God
3.      Because Atheists support gays and I don’t
4.      Because being an atheist is too easy and therefore boring
5.      Because my parents can’t control me without religion and I won’t be able to on my kids.
6.      Because I feel some sort of guilt not following God
7.      Because Atheists like abortion and I don’t
8.      Because being an atheist makes me feel like hell
9.      Because I don’t want to go to hell if it exists
10.  Because many people are religious
11.  Because If I was an atheist I would kill anyone in my family, if they annoy me. But religion keeps me under control.
12.  But If do kill them, then I would feel guilty and that guilt proves God.
13.  Because I can’t understand how all this universe just randomly came into existence from nothing, what makes sense to me is that God created it.
14.  Because the internet makes me feel like God exists.
15.  Because If am an atheist I would be always be worried with the question, what if I am wrong and God exists then I don’t want to be on God’s Bad side.
16.  Because planet earth is boring, including sex which only lasts 5 minutes
17.  Many people have testimony about their experience with God.
18.  Because I can’t find an reasonable argument against God’s existence
19.  Out of existence the highest form of existence is God.
20.  Because I am debating and this makes me feel God exists
21.  Which God?- I Believe  the Christian God since, the bible can be proven archeologically and prophetically, and morally and historically and how it improves people. Miracles prove God.
22.  The Western Civilization is the most power fullest in history, which was influenced and built up by Christianity. 
23.  I could go on, but I like to stop here because I know very well that you know God exists but pretend he doesn't
---ThePrick

Wow, you actually make some good points here. I mean, I never really thought I would say this but... maybe I've been wrong all these years. Would you mind if we talked more via private message so I can learn more about the Word of God?

...

...

...Is, deep down, how you're truly hoping someone in this forum will react to this desperate, moronic post of yours. But no, not here sir. Not today.

In all seriousness, do you really think these are good reasons to not be an atheist? Like honestly? Or are these just some lines your pastor told you to spout off to the non believers?

(October 28, 2016 at 5:05 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm)ThePrick Wrote: 1.      Because I feel Insecure without God
2.      I can’t control how I feel without God
3.      Because Atheists support gays and I don’t
4.      Because being an atheist is too easy and therefore boring
5.      Because my parents can’t control me without religion and I won’t be able to on my kids.
6.      Because I feel some sort of guilt not following God
7.      Because Atheists like abortion and I don’t
8.      Because being an atheist makes me feel like hell
9.      Because I don’t want to go to hell if it exists
10.  Because many people are religious
11.  Because If I was an atheist I would kill anyone in my family, if they annoy me. But religion keeps me under control.
12.  But If do kill them, then I would feel guilty and that guilt proves God.
13.  Because I can’t understand how all this universe just randomly came into existence from nothing, what makes sense to me is that God created it.
14.  Because the internet makes me feel like God exists.
15.  Because If am an atheist I would be always be worried with the question, what if I am wrong and God exists then I don’t want to be on God’s Bad side.
16.  Because planet earth is boring, including sex which only lasts 5 minutes
17.  Many people have testimony about their experience with God.
18.  Because I can’t find an reasonable argument against God’s existence
19.  Out of existence the highest form of existence is God.
20.  Because I am debating and this makes me feel God exists
21.  Which God?- I Believe  the Christian God since, the bible can be proven archeologically and prophetically, and morally and historically and how it improves people. Miracles prove God.
22.  The Western Civilization is the most power fullest in history, which was influenced and built up by Christianity. 
23.  I could go on, but I like to stop here because I know very well that you know God exists but pretend he doesn't
---ThePrick

1.  you mean you lack self confidence?
2.  you lack emotional inspiration?
3. because you're a bigot
4. because you lack imagination outside of the bible?
5. you lack decent parenting skills so you resort to a religion as a handicap? 
6. so you are feeling guilty for something no control over or even could possibly follow? 
7. Because a woman's choice  doesn't matter to you?
8. what does hell feel like?
9. Which hell exists there is thousands of them some being hot and even cold.
10. So there is many different religions what's your point?
11. Why are atheists the minority in jail for crimes even in countries that have the most atheists have the least amount of people in jail. 
12. No you would feel guilty by taking another life god or no god so prove your point. 
13. http://bfy.tw/8Rna 
14. Humans created the internet smart human beings did. 
15. Which god exists and which heaven/hell? 
16. Earth boring existence isn't boring and 5 minutes.... just 5 minutes... for sex... man you need to work on building up stamina 
17. It's all in your head if there was evidence said god helped them there would be no atheists. 
18. [extreme lack of evidence for a god]
19. Nothing can exist outside of the universe because there is no outside of it.  
20. you think god exists because you have a feeling god exists without in certain credible evidence only a feeling that doesn't answer anything. 
21. The bible hint's at multiple gods not just one and even then there is other religions that predate the one you believe in that have more gods. 
22. http://bfy.tw/8RoT
23. i don't think a god or even gods exists but i'm open to the idea as long as there is evidence involved. 

Hey retard, he is trolling for your side. He is an atheist making fun of the reason he believes Christians use to remain strong to what they believe.

(October 30, 2016 at 6:35 am)segevmoran Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 3:58 pm)ThePrick Wrote: 1.      Because I feel Insecure without God

Why??? What God got to do with your security???

Quote:2.      I can’t control how I feel without God

So as you see it Only those who believe God have control of their feelings?

Quote:3.      Because Atheists support gays and I don’t

Well, That's just because you are a narrow minded primitive.
Why do you even think that Gay people require your support? they are people as any other!!!
They don't need your support just as you don't need theirs. But they do need to be treated just as any other person!
To me saying you don't support Gay, is the same as saying you don't support people who do oral sex...
And if you don't support Oral sex, than you are most definitely missing out on life

Quote:4.      Because being an atheist is too easy and therefore boring

Yeah, right..
Much harder than having "God" accountable for every shitty thing you do or happens to you in life.. LOL

Quote:5.      Because my parents can’t control me without religion and I won’t be able to on my kids.

Yep.. That's what I refer to a basis to child abuse.
Why do you think you need to control your kids??????? Why not respect them and educate them to be honest and kind instead?

Quote:6.      Because I feel some sort of guilt not following God

That I can understand! That's btw the result of your previous point. You were raised to FEAR a life without God. Not abusive at all....

Quote:7.      Because Atheists like abortion and I don’t

That's got nothing to do with beliefs or dis-beliefs. Some atheist are pro, some are against.
Some theists are pro, some are against.
The difference is that Atheist don't claim a fertilized egg have a soul.

Quote:8.      Because being an atheist makes me feel like hell

Kinda the same as point 6

Quote:9.      Because I don’t want to go to hell if it exists

Well.. if hell exists.. probability is that your are going there.. and most people in the world. So i guess Hell is gonna be crowded  

Quote:10.  Because many people are religious

There are many people who believe Elvis is alive also..

Quote:11.  Because If I was an atheist I would kill anyone in my family, if they annoy me. But religion keeps me under control.

In that case you belong in a mental institution man...
If the only reason you are not killing others  (let alone your own family) is fear of God.. Please please please.. Go and see someone.. I am not kidding!!!!!!!

Quote:12.  But If do kill them, then I would feel guilty and that guilt proves God.

That's somehow contradicts thousands of murderers who not only feel good after committing murder, but rather glorify their acts and wish for more (A lot of them are doing it in the name of the great G BTW... (And no.. I'm not talking about the spot)

Quote:13.  Because I can’t understand how all this universe just randomly came into existence from nothing, what makes sense to me is that God created it.

Well.. obviously you don't understand because you don't learn.
Educate yourself a bit in sciences and things will begin to look more clear... Although many more questions are still open, so don't expect any miracles

Quote:14.  Because the internet makes me feel like God exists.

Lol.. That's a Good one.. Can I use it?

Quote:15.  Because If am an atheist I would be always be worried with the question, what if I am wrong and God exists then I don’t want to be on God’s Bad side.

Don't know.. I'm an atheist.. never bothered with that question...
But lets assume your 80, and realize that you were wrong.. and yes.. your gonna die and there is no afterlife! nothing beyond your life here..
Wouldn't you feel like you missed a bit on life?

Quote:16.  Because planet earth is boring, including sex which only lasts 5 minutes

You know, There are ways you can greatly improve your 5 minutes barrier..
I Think that actually allowing yourself to think that sex is more than just a breeding ritual will actually pump up your enjoyment of sex.
And planet earth is boring only if you treat it as a "Bus" stop to another location (Which no one ever proved even exists).
Just try and learn biology... examine the stars... start exploring the universe..
Talk with people (Even gay!!!!), find things you like doing other than worshiping your invisible God..
I can assure you you will find things that are enjoyable and intriguing!

Quote:17.  Many people have testimony about their experience with God.

And many have with Aliens.. and Chupakabra, And Elvis, And Dragons, and Ghosts, And Fairies, And many many more.

Quote:18.  Because I can’t find an reasonable argument against God’s existence

You don't need to find a reasonable argument against!!! start by finding a reasonable argument for! (Hint: You can't as there is none)

Quote:19.  Out of existence the highest form of existence is God.

Lol.. Just read what you wrote man... Out of existence... the highest form of existence...

Quote:20.  Because I am debating and this makes me feel God exists

Hmmm.. So if God was not.. you couldn't think?

Quote:21.  Which God?- I Believe  the Christian God since, the bible can be proven archeologically and prophetically, and morally and historically and how it improves people. Miracles prove God.

Actually.. No it can't.. again.. Go and educate yourself.. than state these statements!

Quote:22.  The Western Civilization is the most power fullest in history, which was influenced and built up by Christianity. 

And used violent wars and abused humans to rise..
What about China BTW?

Quote:23.  I could go on, but I like to stop here because I know very well that you know God exists but pretend he doesn't

Yes.. Every night I Pray and thank God for allowing me to wake up in the morning...
And then.. I Wake up, Go to a temple house and pay them money so they can throw in a good word for me to God..
Also, I Thank God every time I Have food on my table.. even if this food was brought to the table by me, after working like crazy 200 hours a month so i can buy some food in the supermarket.
Even when I am ill and then cured by antibiotics.. I thank God for helping me cure and not the doctors and scientists who discovered the antibiotics...
Sure...

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OMG...

See my response to drysand

(October 30, 2016 at 7:14 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Science is a way to assess evidence without letting your preconceived ideas or prejudices get in the way of establishing the facts. Of course you wont like it, preconceived ideas and prejudices are all you have.  

That's crap. Let look at the scientific method.
In step number 3 you are to formulate a hypothesis and step 4 you are develop testable predictions BASED ON YOUR HYPOTHESIS! That my friend is the definition of a self fulfilling prophesy. like it or not the whole of scientific discovery is based on faith/the honor system that your precious 'scientists' do not fudge their findings to support their theories. Which we know to be the case as theories based on the scientific method are always changing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

All science offers you is a way of outside verification. Meaning a tangible object or physical phenoma can be manipulated or re-verified by this method. The problem? Not all of the universe can be made to fit those two categories. For instance besides God Science can't even be used to explain the complete nature of love.

Or are you so foolish to try and deny love exists even without a scientific explanation?

Science has it limitations, and to use the term science to bridge all the gaps in life is no different than using God to bridge gaps in knowledge.

Quote:Science is different because every aspect of science can be supported by facts and evidence.

Not according to the scientific method. Again, Facts are manipulated to fit a theory until they are so overwhelming that a new theory must be formulated. (higgs bosen particle is a good example)

Quote:But people who kinda like Batman do not live their life by the way of Bruce Wayne. They do not oppress others on the basis of the laws of DC. Christians and other groups of theists inflict their delusions on others and that's were I get involved. Remember dude you came to an atheist site.

well that's crap too. Clinton said in a several speeches Religious ideologies must be changed:
four years ago,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0J6NTlDu6I

one year ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNvzjBsScPA

This in spite of the first amendment that says government shall make no law concerning the Free practice of religion.

So why did you go to batman when government is seriously threatening to impede on a citizens right to protest and not support someone who their religion tells them not to support? That's right because you can make a point about batman (if you choose to ignore James holems) but can't make a real world connection.

Quote:I can confidently say that god is not real due to the complete lack of any evidence to support its existence. I find it sad that in this day and age anyone gives it any credence at all.

Actually you can't unless you defiantly choose to ignore all the evidence people can provide.

Again provide scientific evidence for love, deny it exists Or admit to your hypocrite.

Quote:Say it with me "abortions are not killing babies"

Dumb ass Clinton is pushing justices to the supreme court that allows thrid trimester baby killing to happen.

Meaning a baby viable outside the womb, but who has not come to full term can be murdered.

Let me go one more step for you just incase you really are this stupid:
http://clinicquotes.com/late-term-abortion-pictures/

HOW are any of the pictured above NOT BABIES???

How dare any of you call me a monster and not acknowledge those children/babies were slaughtered by 'doctors' on the word of their mothers..

Then Clinton wants to silence anyone who says this is wrong?!?!? WTF is wrong with you people? look at pic 6 and forward and tell me those were a collection of cells. Tell me is someone rip a child from the mother without her consent at this late stage in development that he would not be deemed a murderer! The act and final result is the same. which means life is not defined by stage of development but rather some else's want.

Quote:No I do not believe that hell is a thing its a real. This Atheists are secretly afraid of god/hell talk is based on a misunderstanding. I do not believe and have never believed in any of it. I suppose this is because you live in a place where your view is not abnormal. But I live in the UK and religious people are the exception, the few that are around are more or less left to their own delusions.

Then why spend so much time refuting it?

Quote:All this time here and you still do not understand what an atheist is.

There is the delusion you want to propagate and then there is reality. Just because I did not use your perfered description of yourself does not mean I can not or did not rightly identify you 'good people.'

Quote:Atheism is an answer to a question. "do I believe in god?" "I do not!" stop trying to drag it down to your level. 

and in so saying, one ascribes to certain rules and a system of belief. the close adherence to said rules makes you d-bags a form of religion. Or are you saying I believing in God can be an atheist as well?

Quote:So what I get from this is because science does not know everything yet, therefore god.

No, science does not know everything therefore to say it does means you step out on faith, just like I do. So then since we are on equal footing who is to say you are 'right?'

Quote:I take a more pragmatic view.

There is a question of how the universe originated. Currently we do not have the tools to discover how it began.

This part is true, but you do not believe it. if so you could not say with any certainty How the universe came into existance.

I don't know means I don't know. Not i don't know but defiantly not this:

Quote:The chances of the universe being started by some creature that shares features with the Abrahamic god, zero.

How stupid is that? The same principle that keeps you from making a declaration also prevents you for eliminating anything else.

Quote:What Yahweh or whatever people are calling the creater myth these days was was a thing similar to all religions a creation myth. Something to tell the kids about  why we are here. Just so stories if you will. Like how the Girrafe got ites neck.

out of ignorance comes the same retoric that you are trying to assign to those who believe in God.

Not all version of religion share the idea of a creationist God.

Quote:Science is the opposite of a faith based narrative.

It is the same. Your faith is in the narritive/hypothsis that ties what you call evidence all together...
Matter of fact your faith has to be greater because that narrative is constantly changing. For example if you read darwins original theory and hold it up side by side to out current model of darwinism you'd only see sparse similarities. So again your faith is one in darwinism (and not one of the other lessor know evolutionary theories or even the seed theories to be true.) and your faith is further shown in that you believe the current inneration of 'darwinism' to be true. and not a previous one..

Quote:Given the right tools you can check that it is true.

But again, you can't. Let go to the higgs boson particle. Even with the multi-billion dollar particle accelerator and hundreds of millions more spent in operation we can't even provide true evidence to support the theories projected.. So what do we do? we change the theory to fit what was found. the problem? what was found undermines the whole theory, but unless you spend you whole life doing this crap no one can tell.
again it all comes down to a matter of faith:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/10...33502.html

Like it or not all the brain washing you want to assign to the religious you yourself are vulnerable to. Just in different ways. You are trained and conditioned to unquestionably accept anything labeled 'science.' and you place all your faith in that. Do you not see the similarity? It's the same process, just no God.

So again, you can't check squat. You must have faith that someone under the umbrella of 'science' can. That is the new religion/turn your thinking off and put all of your faith in this basket of belief.

Nothing's changed just the status of God in your mind.

Quote:Whenever people have tried to check the religious narrative against facts they have had to move their god somewhere else so that now it has moved to a realm it has been made impossible to check for.
A sign that it does not exist.

Read the artical that came out 1 year after some douche was awared the Nobel prize for finding this supposed particle.

Even the Nobel people are subject to faith, why else would the award a prestigious award to something already established/guess at?

They like you have been conditioned to blindly believe anything labled "science" that has come down the proper channels.

Why? because no one can fact check/verify unless they themselves are of that discipline.

Now here is the scarry thing small thinker... Who 'owns' those scientists? who pays those fact checkers?
You seriously don't think that scientists do all that they do for free do you? you don't think countries just build multi billion dollar supercoliders because they have nothing better do with the money???

Why do you think the scientists at cern claim to find the higgs boson when in fact they did not? Because the people paying the bills threatened to shut them down so they told them what they wanted to hear and it took over a year before they were exposed. Even won a nobel prize. because again all of us have to take it on FAITH that what 'science' is telling us is indeed true.

So again all things being equal (you like me believe what we believe concerning the nature of the universe is faith based) then who are you to say you are right and I am wrong? That my faith based friend take a seriously strong brand of self righteousness.
 

Quote:You make me sad Drich. A twenty first century man with the scientific literacy of a Neanderthal.

will your hypocrisy never be silenced?

Quote:"Deny the faith one must have in science" You are really a good example of anti intellectualism and why the US is doomed.

Unlike the england/UK who 'hasn't' been in declined since the end of the revolutionary war? Once a proud world dominating nation with colonies all over the world, who's now biggest contribution is providing actors for the walking dead series on AMC who sport passable American accents.

Quote:Such a short sentence with so much wrong with it. By unpopular theories I take it mean areas where the facts do not conform with your prejudices. I am thinking probably intelligent design. But who knows with Drich.

sorry sport, but no. re read my last couple of paragraphs if you want something to talk about.

Quote:People who look for faith normally find a faith of one sort or another. My wife for example looked for faith, rejected Christianity and is a spiritualist. She asked soght and knocked and the spirits answered apparently.

Ah, no. She like the rest of you ask sought and knocked on a door/religion of your own creation.

Quote:The west was hugely influenced by Christianity. It was why it had such a long dark age. Only now is the damage inflicted by the centuries of believing a lie coming to an end.

pleeze bruh.
can't you guys get together and select a narritive and stick with it? you seem to be stuck with the old "people are running out of churches in droves and we are comming to a new age." (which has been refuted by point out that yes small churches are closing but mega churches are taking their places/where do you think those members who fill a 15,000 seat church 3 times on Sunday come from?)

So what your more progressive brethren are now arguing is that the west was never influenced by religion. that all of this recent influence only happened in the last few decades, and now we are shifting back.

Which has dumbest thing I've ever heard, because all one need do is to do some fact checking.. But I also understand how 'you good people' assimilate knowledge without question if it is packaged correctly.

Stick with your old crapped out argument if you like, but know it is simply a narrative that small minded people employ to feel good about the evil things they do. Rather to feel justified in the selection of pop morality over God.