(October 28, 2016 at 5:30 am)Sal Wrote: I see you got ThePrick (apt name, tbh) over from atheistforums.com

He won't be posting again.

(October 31, 2016 at 2:39 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Drich Wrote: Well Atheism is a religion as well. It has an orgins story, It mandates one take a position on God, it shares common core beliefs and systems of belief. It even has 'churches of sorts..'

So that's why you're such an uneducated twit. You just proclaim science as just another false religion like Islam, Hare-Krishna, Catholicism...

Can you imagine this guy at something like math class:

I think you missed the taking to task of all your peers, so i will gladly give you the highlights.

The problem with most closed minded people (you/people like you) is that you have your own definations to common everyday words like in this case 'religion.' In all honesty it is not too far off from the orginal defination, but here's the catch or rather here is where your fault is. You are closed minded. meaning your mind is closed to any other defination of the word religion than what you have ascribed to it.

For instance look at how you identify religion:

Quote:You just proclaim science as just another false religion like Islam, Hare-Krishna, Catholicism...

One you believe all religion is false, two you wrongfully assume all religion is a form of deity worship, three you wrongfully assume all religion is organized.

Now the question should be what do you base this on, what reference material do you use to support this definition.. The answers to those question can be found in your common everyday usage of that word. The problem??? You assumed wrongly that your definition is the only definition of said word and will not entertain any other which makes you the uneducated/uneducated twit sport, not me.

Here is the defination of religion I was using:
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re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
noun: religion

• a particular system of faith and worship.
  plural noun: religions
  
  
  

So now let critically look at the definition you were using verse the dictionary definition:
You think all religion is false,
That all religion is a form of deity worship
that all religion is organized.
As the above three aspects are I mentioned are shared by the examples you gave in your statement.

As you can see in the dictionary definition, where a religion is true or not makes it no more or less of a religion.

Religion is a form of worship/a practice with its creed and ritual it does not have to include a deity. Bushido is an excellent example of a deity-less religion. it is the worship of a code defining a system of honor.

You think all religions (again per your failed examples) are organized.
Meaning all religions have to conform to a strict lists of do's and don'ts, and have organized meetings. When in fact much like atheism simple spiritualism focuses on it's own lists and do not require weekly meetings. Yet by all practical aspects does indeed qualify to be a religious effort. which makes it's followers apart of a religious movement or all part of a religion.

Like it or not sport, atheism is a religion if you are willing to open you mind up to the possibility that your definition of the word religion is not complete. that the dictionary definition is indeed broad enough to encompass your beliefs and the rules that define your system of belief as being religious in nature.

Because as I have demonstrated faith is indeed involved in what you believe as what you believe in not static. it is ever changing and it takes faith to believe what you currently believe about the nature of the word around you is indeed truth and will not be usurped by some other theory tomorrow.

You have a collective creed, in that universally you all believe God in any form does not exist, and whether you can see it or not. anyone who opposes the doctrine of science and no God can also tell you that you all do have an active ritualistic methodology that you use to try and debunk anyone who stands in direct opposition to you. You also use this methodology to reassure yourselves of your creed when ever one of you is rocked hard by an argument. (you tried this here with me despite the evidence to the contrary.)

You all use terms like 'uneducated, irrational, sheeple ' to systematical tear down any form of belief/arguemnt that is not consistent with your creed, despite what is actually said.

Do you understand what I said there?

No matter what the christian has to say, your answer will ultimately boil down to a singular methodology of ad hoc/ad hom attacks on the individual. after almost 10 years of doing this I have yet to even hear of an atheist that is involved in a discussion that had not ultimately end with the atheist walking away dismissing whatever that was said without the use of this methodology to reset his beliefs/creed..

If you can stay focused all of those thing point out a system of worship to your deity-less religion. again like bushido it is a practice of personal belief and a quasi honor system. But never the less a religion all the same.

Now I know your goto is to trivialize me or put me down in someway so you do not have to address the points i made, the definitions I used and the examples I gave to back those definitions up.

Never the less I challenge you to meet me line by line fact by fact and show me where I am wrong. Put down all of the pomp and puffed up pageantry you guys typically use, and factually deconstruct my argument.

At least try and fill the shoes you paint for yourself/being intellectually superior. Show me something more that stereotypical atheist methodology and meaningless insults.

let's go land shark lets see what your made of.. Or are you another mindless millennial who can only think in the way of memes others have posted pinterest?

Drich, you are here long enough and posted enough to be considered the ultimate example of religion does. A live testimony, but not for the reasons you think.

You have proven time and time again that you are not worth anything than derision. There are wiser theists that deserve respect, you are not one of them.

Ultimately, you should do your preaching amongst those that already believe like you do. You picked a tough crowd, don't moan over seiing your bullshit refuted.

Does anybody actually read the utter cunt that happens when Drippy posts?

(October 31, 2016 at 4:35 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Drich, you are here long enough and posted enough to be considered the ultimate example of religion does. A live testimony, but not for the reasons you think.

You have proven time and time again that you are not worth anything than derision. There are wiser theists that deserve respect, you are not one of them.

Ultimately, you should do your preaching amongst those that already believe like you do. You picked a tough crowd, don't moan over seiing your bullshit refuted.

again you like the other two, simply make an empty attempt to discredit me personally, but do not actually address the content of my message...

How is that being refuted?

Just because in your mind you have 'reset' the argument and you are back in the same position when you entered this argument does not mean my argument has been refuted. No all it means is you like your peers have a very closed minded world view.

In my time here i have found that most atheist like will gladly go toe to toe so long as deep specifics are not addressed. You want to be the lazy suedo intelectuals who just spout the popular arguements based on christian sterotypes.. None of you really want to go out on a limb and be caught thinking for yourselves. So, If/when the conversation gets too deep or if I happen to truly shake a core belief then, like you just did. you all default to a ritualistic tear down of the individual and never ever address the points... It's like in your own little world, in those tightly closed minds if you can discredit or call them a name, somehow you win, and you do not have to address what has been said. which is just fine if you are a devoutly religious person, but how can one claim to be the progressive yet not be willing to even broach the subject topically? Are you admitting that I am right and atheism is nothing more than another world religion??? Or are you a denier of the faith but will practice by calling me names rather than answer the question?

Bottom line:

You made NO attempt to even speak topically, rather you move straight to a personal attack.

Again mr. thinker mr. progressive, how can you claim an open mind if you are not willing to topically participate in the discussion?

What say you Mr. Pussycat? whoa whoa, what say you pussy cat????