(November 11, 2016 at 3:12 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(November 11, 2016 at 2:16 pm)alpha male Wrote: How many are staged by the left? Are you following the Chris Ball incident?

I don't think that would be staged... it's clear he actually got the shit kicked out of him, we just have to take his word for it that the beating was fueled by anti-gay pro-Trump rhetoric.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/201...-born.html

The guy makes horror movies and so has the talent to stage it, and according to the police no such person checked into local hospitals. I'm maintaining somewhat of an open mind on it for another day or two, but right now it looks like it was staged.

For context, I was talking to two different gay people on FB yesterday who said they were scared by the election. Each pointed to this incident when I asked why. It smelled like BS from the start, and this morning it started to unravel.

So, why are minority individuals going out of their way to scare their fellows about Trump?

That's the main problem with Trump winning the election, it's emboldened all the racists who have been seething for the past 8 years over an Obama presidency. With Trump on the campaign trail spouting racism they were emboldened enough to start to be open with their own racism, and now with him winning we can look forward to 4 years of blatant, open racism. I hate that we're backsliding to the 1960's, but that's what's happening.

(November 11, 2016 at 2:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 10, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Aroura Wrote: If only half are true, we really have unleashed something terrible. It's sickening.

How many are staged by the left? Are you following the Chris Ball incident?

Let me say this again for the deaf people who only want to see things as left or right.

EVERYONE is acting like asses right now.  I can point to leftists asses or alt right asses, but the POINT IS that Trump brought more violence to and from everyone regardless of political affiliation.

We have unleashed something terrible, AM, and I didn't mean any political thing by that. I mean we, all of us.  So stop picking sides.
I meant we'd given a big thumbs up A-ok to act like the worst of ourselves, which a lot of people now are.  Because look, the guy who acted that way himself is now president, so I will pin that increase in bad behavior directly on Trump.

(November 11, 2016 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 11, 2016 at 3:12 pm)Aegon Wrote: I don't think that would be staged... it's clear he actually got the shit kicked out of him, we just have to take his word for it that the beating was fueled by anti-gay pro-Trump rhetoric.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/201...-born.html

The guy makes horror movies and so has the talent to stage it, and according to the police no such person checked into local hospitals. I'm maintaining somewhat of an open mind on it for another day or two, but right now it looks like it was staged.

FFS, even if some are staged or hoaxes, most are not.  Let's just ignore that and pick on the few that were??

Keep cherry picking, it's all you know how to do, that and go lalalalalala some more.

(November 11, 2016 at 3:35 pm)Aroura Wrote: EVERYONE is acting like asses right now.  I can point to leftists asses or alt right asses, but the POINT IS that Trump brought more violence to and from everyone regardless of political affiliation.

He didn't bring it as in actively inciting it. What he did, like any other rightwing populist, was to create a climate of encouragement. A climate where the borders of what is acceptable behavior were shifted.

(November 11, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Aroura Wrote: FFS, even if some are staged or hoaxes, most are not.

How do you know that?

Quote:Let's just ignore that and pick on the few that were??

Keep cherry picking, it's all you know how to do, that and go lalalalalala some more.

The point is that, as some will go so far as to stage a crime scene or file a police report, there are likely many more who will write something on a wall or make an unverifiable tweet.

(November 11, 2016 at 3:16 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(November 11, 2016 at 3:12 pm)Aegon Wrote: I don't think that would be staged... it's clear he actually got the shit kicked out of him, we just have to take his word for it that the beating was fueled by anti-gay pro-Trump rhetoric.

http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/201...-born.html

The guy makes horror movies and so has the talent to stage it, and according to the police no such person checked into local hospitals. I'm maintaining somewhat of an open mind on it for another day or two, but right now it looks like it was staged.

He literally uploaded a picture of himself in the ER. I'm on mobile so I don't have it to link, but it's on Snopes

That must be it, Alpha...it;s a bunch of liberal anti-trump people scribbling trump campaign grafitti all over the place.  Because, as we all know, it's not the neonazis that plaster swastikas on store windows..those guys are fine upstanding americans.

Don;t get me wrong,. I think it;s a wonderful idea. I'm actually tempted, in the wake of this election, to join the kkk and get myself a nice armband while I'm at it....and I'm not even remotely joking. It's not like they'd ever..in a million years, turn me down. I look and sound like I have an impeccable pedigree, and that;s about as far as any of those dipshits think things through...as our election has shown us.

Deep down, there's this part of me I like to refer to as my inner american insurgent...that wants to help you and yours fuck up as often, as publicly, and as hilariously as possible. Getting a bigot to goosestep is pretty damned easy...they're never more than one budlight away from it at any moment anyway. The slightest fucking encouragement and they'll start to lay out their ethnic cleansing plan in excruciating detail...almost as if they'd been dreaming about it for some time now. I hear FEMA has alot of trailers and boxcars we could use.

(November 11, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Aegon Wrote: He literally uploaded a picture of himself in the ER. I'm on mobile so I don't have it to link, but it's on Snopes

You know, it may seem I'm fighting you, but I'm not. But that's not sufficient. Sufficient would be a confirmed report about the incident. I'm saying that because hoaxes like that do happen. Or something like that happens but it is blamed on an entirely different reason.

It works from the other side too, as I already said. As in girls claiming to having been raped by refugees, when police reports confirm that they were pulling their leg and simply went with the xenophobic narrative of their environment.

That's why I'm more than careful when posting any incident. I check, recheck and double check before I confirm any story to be true. I also look at the source of the allegations. If it comes from a dubious source and I muster a sufficient amount of interest or am challenged, I look if it gets the same kind or any report on other sources.

Might be because it was my job for the last 27 years, working as a journalist and PR consultant.