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Trump is waffling on the wall.
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Pat Mustard
Previous username: GUBU God! Theresa, I forgot me fecking trousers!  Religious Views: the Disc's first ligthning proof atheist (November 11, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Gee, not gonna lock her up, not gonna build a wall...what's next? We -won't- be getting concentration camps after all? He's not going to reduce the corporate tax rate either. Well how can he, when the US rate is an effective 0% for bigger companies?
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Home  (November 11, 2016 at 6:15 pm)operator Wrote: Not surprised at all. The part that kills me is the idiots who actually thought a fucking wall would stop illegal immigration. No, it wouldn't. But it wouldn't stop populous politicians demanding it if their electorate bawls loudly enough. We just had that last year. 10 millions wasted on a totally useless fence to fend off refugees. So, an obvious idiocy doesn't say that there aren't idiots in power actually turning it into reality. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
RE: Trump is waffling on the wall.
November 11, 2016 at 6:20 pm
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(November 11, 2016 at 6:18 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:(November 11, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Gee, not gonna lock her up, not gonna build a wall...what's next? We -won't- be getting concentration camps after all? / shrugs. Maybe he plans on giving them bonuses based on earnings...out of the taxpayer coffers...like the brilliant businessman he is...and the welfare queens they are? I mean, I leave it up to him. He's the idea man, he has great ideas...the best ideas.
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 (November 11, 2016 at 6:19 pm)abaris Wrote:That's so sad.(November 11, 2016 at 6:15 pm)operator Wrote: Not surprised at all. The part that kills me is the idiots who actually thought a fucking wall would stop illegal immigration. LESS GOVERNMENT, LESS FOREIGNERS, MORE FENCE!
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(November 11, 2016 at 7:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Workability isn't always a factor in government projects. I would replace workability with value.
 (November 11, 2016 at 6:15 pm)operator Wrote: Not surprised at all. The part that kills me is the idiots who actually thought a fucking wall would stop illegal immigration. If you believe a literal wall could stop illegal immigration, then I have a bridge to sell you. It was interesting to see people stick up for him and his wall idea even as the cost went from, "Very cheap, believe me" to 5 billion, to 10 billion, to 15 to 25... We're talking about people that think that a guy that's sits on a golden toilet is a man of the people. They're not exactly the best and the brightest. And let's not forget that ~45% of the country believes that the earth is <10,000 years old. That's fertile ground for a guy like Trump.
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RE: Trump is waffling on the wall.
November 11, 2016 at 7:33 pm
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2016 at 7:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 11, 2016 at 7:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Sorry if I wasn't clear. I wasn't questioning whether Trump Wall would work (and I quite agree that it wouldn't), but whether it would be built at all.I know, just springboarding off a good comment.  Quote:Workability isn't always a factor in government projects.Agreed, and certainly not when there's there pork at play. There;s more money in -not- building the wall we're not building than there would be in actually building it. Had they finished it the last time, how would we justify the checks we'll be writing this time...for the wall that will have materialized at no time? Whether or not it would work seems like a complete non-issue....but shhh, don't tell that to the trumpsters. Besids, if it we -did- build it and it -did- work...that would be a disaster!!!..... Who would we blame for our misfortunes if not the mexicans? 
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(November 11, 2016 at 7:30 pm)Faith No More Wrote: We're talking about people that think that a guy that's sits on a golden toilet is a man of the people. They're not exactly the best and the brightest. In my opinion there's something wrong with the perception of wealth in the States. It doesn't make you a better or worse person. But the American perception seems to be, dosh equals success, makes you superior. Nothing could be further from the truth. But it's one of the many narratives we Europeans will never understand about America.
(November 11, 2016 at 7:25 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 11, 2016 at 7:23 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Workability isn't always a factor in government projects. I wouldn't. Any massive construction project has inherent value, even if it doesn't work as intended. You could keep workers employed for years, subsidiary jobs would be created (entertainment venues, restaurants, brothels, etc) near the work sites, tax revenues would increase - all of these things have value. But I take your point: I'd sooner see the labour and capital invested in things like hospitals, homeless shelters, schools and the like - all of which would have more value and workability, any way you figure it. Boru
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