Quote:My method of measurement in the Joy, happiness, Love, contentedness I feel growing ever stronger!

They're just chemical reactions mate.

Quote:Let me give you an example what a prayer really is: if you’re walking down the street and you see an old lady struggling, and you feel compassion for her, even if you can't help. This is what prayer really is, it's an emotion you project of love and compassion for anyone anywhere!

Chemical reactions and the stimulation of certain parts of the brain.

Quote:Something else for you to ponder: Every time you sleep, your spirit body separates from your material body and enters the spirit world! You have two types of experiences in your sleep, one is dreams and one is actually sleep state experiences!

I take it you don't really know why we dream?

Quote:Dreams are designed to help you realize what emotions you are denying!

No, dreaming is what keeps the brain active. Never does it switch off or cease processing data. Should it ever do so, brain damage is likely to occur. The whole point of dreaming is to keep the brain active, keep neurons firing and chemicals reacting.
Some have concluded that nightmares is a way for the mind to bring a level of resistance to an event or state in the waking world, making us more capable. However this is still widely debated.

Quote:Ever had a bad dream, well that emotion you feel about it wants to come out of you, a lot of people try to intellectualize dreams, no need, just feel them!

Stop making stuff up.

Quote:Seriously no matter how many time I read that, it really is funny! Clap

Um...it's about YOU, bozo.

(June 10, 2011 at 12:11 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Seriously no matter how many time I read that, it really is funny! Clap

Um...it's about YOU, bozo.

Yer I know! and? I don't care! I found it really funny!

Actually I'm still gigle about it when I think about it!

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(June 10, 2011 at 12:09 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:

Quote:My method of measurement in the Joy, happiness, Love, contentedness I feel growing ever stronger!

They're just chemical reactions mate.

Stop making stuff up.

Your really going to stick to your chemical stuff hey!

Something else to ponder: Out-of-body experience, thats when your spirit body leaves your matrial body, 1 in 10 people are reported to experiance this in their life!

Quote:Your really going to stick to your chemical stuff hey!

Yup, it's all we can detect and verify.

Quote:Something else to ponder: Out-of-body experience, thats when your spirit body leaves your matrial body, 1 in 10 people are reported to experiance this in their life!

I'd love to be able to examine, test, repeat and measure this phenomenon so to verify it.
I'm afraid claims on their own aren't enough.
I could claim that I collapsed and saw the god Odin and walked through Valhalla's great hall and that he told me everyone who do not believe in him will go to hell. Will you not take this seriously? Or will you just take my word for it?

There is a reason why I ask for evidence. I want to verify the claim, to see if there is any truth to it.

(June 10, 2011 at 12:42 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:

Quote:Your really going to stick to your chemical stuff hey!

Yup, it's all we can detect and verify.

Quote:Something else to ponder: Out-of-body experience, thats when your spirit body leaves your matrial body, 1 in 10 people are reported to experiance this in their life!

I could claim that I collapsed and saw the god Odin and walked through Valhalla's great hall and that he told me everyone who do not believe in him will go to hell. Will you take this seriously? Or will you just take my word for it?

Many things can't be explained, like Love, try to tell the best scientist in the world what Love feels like, if he had never experienced it, would he understand or believe you it existed?!?!
Prob not, he would need to experience it! Only then would he understand, and so believe without doubt it existed, without the need of data!

There is a reason why I ask for evidence. I want to verify the claim, to see if there is any truth to it.

There is a good philosophy one can use throughout life, and in the end can't go wrong, no matter what happens! Stick to what is loving! Or what sounds like a loving thing! And if one can’t determine, put it on the back burner!
Like in the bible there is a lot of error but there is some truth too, what sounds loving is prob true! A God of wrath is not loving, so is it true, I trust my feelings when a question comes! I trust only love!

The truth is always loveing!

One more thing about Desire and the Law of Attraction, if you have a burning desire for truth, than there is a very good chance you will attract it into your life!

(June 10, 2011 at 11:57 am)Andrastos Wrote: My method of measurement in the Joy, happiness, Love, contentedness I feel growing ever stronger!
Let me give you an example what a prayer really is: if you’re walking down the street and you see an old lady struggling, and you feel compassion for her, even if you can't help. This is what prayer really is, it's an emotion you project of love and compassion for anyone anywhere!

Something else for you to ponder: Every time you sleep, your spirit body separates from your material body and enters the spirit world! You have two types of experiences in your sleep, one is dreams and one is actually sleep state experiences! Ever had a "dream" that felt was really real, good chance it was!
Dreams are designed to help you realize what emotions you are denying! And so need to deal with! Ever had a bad dream, well that emotion you feel about it wants to come out of you, a lot of people try to intellectualize dreams, no need, just feel them!

Wow. I've read through this and your other thread and I can't help but notice just how much of it is absolute bullshit.
I mean, seriously, at least sci-fi and fantasy authors at least try to make their respective fictions sound plausible within the context of their own stories.

Of course, I dont' know what's worse, the fact that you're peddling a rather awful fiction under the guise of being "absolute truth" or that you actually believe it to be true.

At least a few of the other theists around here attempt to contextualize their crazy belief system within the context of reality (even if it still ends up dismissing many of the proven sciences, save those that don't argue with their position or the pseudosciences they attempt to pass off as the real thing.)
You can't even come up with a legitimate arguement for your position without preaching your inane beliefs and not listening to the responses because you see that most of us who regular here have seen this sort of BS time and time again and while many of us would have bothered with more detailed responses in the past in an attempt to take your beliefs seriously most of us have seen saner beliefs spouted by similarly deluded individuals come and go and frankly few of us are going to bother doing anything other than calling it what it is.

(June 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm)Andrastos Wrote:

(June 10, 2011 at 12:42 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:

Quote:Your really going to stick to your chemical stuff hey!

Yup, it's all we can detect and verify.

Quote:Something else to ponder: Out-of-body experience, thats when your spirit body leaves your matrial body, 1 in 10 people are reported to experiance this in their life!

I could claim that I collapsed and saw the god Odin and walked through Valhalla's great hall and that he told me everyone who do not believe in him will go to hell. Will you take this seriously? Or will you just take my word for it?

Many things can't be explained, like Love, try to tell the best scientist in the world what Love feels like, if he had never experienced it, would he understand or believe you it existed?!?!
Prob not, he would need to experience it! Only then would he understand, and so believe without doubt it existed, without the need of data!

There is a reason why I ask for evidence. I want to verify the claim, to see if there is any truth to it.

There is a good philosophy one can use throughout life, and in the end can't go wrong, no matter what happens! Stick to what is loving! Or what sounds like a loving thing! And if one can’t determine, put it on the back burner!
Like in the bible there is a lot of error but there is some truth too, what sounds loving is prob true! A God of wrath is not loving, so is it true, I trust my feelings when a question comes! I trust only love!

The truth is always loveing!

One more thing about Desire and the Law of Attraction, if you have a burning desire for truth, than there is a very good chance you will attract it into your life!

Many things can't be explained, like Love, try to tell the best scientist in the world what Love feels like, if he had never experienced it, would he understand or believe you it existed?!?! Even if he had data to prove it existed, he still would not understand it!
He would need to experience it! Only then would he understand, and so believe without doubt it existed!

"I could claim that I collapsed and saw the god Odin and walked through Valhalla's great hall and that he told me everyone who do not believe in him will go to hell. Will you take this seriously? Or will you just take my word for it?"

Wouldn't surprise me at all, really. In answer to your questions: No and obviously not.

BTW, Hel is not the same for the Norse. Don't conflate religions.

(June 10, 2011 at 1:26 pm)Andrastos Wrote: There is a good philosophy one can use throughout life, and in the end can't go wrong, no matter what happens! Stick to what is loving! Or what sounds like a loving thing! And if one can’t determine, put it on the back burner!
Like in the bible there is a lot of error but there is some truth too, what sounds loving is prob true! A God of wrath is not loving, so is it true, I trust my feelings when a question comes! I trust only love!

The truth is always loveing!

One more thing about Desire and the Law of Attraction, if you have a burning desire for truth, than there is a very good chance you will attract it into your life!

If that's the only way you'll see reality, then forever blind you'll be.
Love is just a chemical reaction.

Going to a place after you die where you can do anything you want sounds lovely. This doesn't make it true.
Reality isn't based on love or hate but nature. It isn't based on good or evil, only natural events.
You're seeing the world from a primitive overly emotional and excessive imaginative pattern seeking mind. Things aren't as kind and loving as you perceive them. The cosmos is extremely dangerous, life never lasts, people young and old die every second of every day. 150,000 people die per day, children are born with cancer, disorders and deadly illnesses. Our sun could at any point send a strong solar wave that knocks out all our technology. Asteroids are never far, and they are in the many millions, there are deadly viruses all over the globe, we are constantly fighting each other, our resources are dropping, people are starving, the risk of a deadly out break of a virus grows every day....and you say if it's lovely it must be true?
You are a primitive pattern seeking monkey trying to make sense of the reality around it. Just because something may look or sound lovely doesn't make it even remotely true. We are tiny biological specks that's having terrible difficulty grasping the reality around it.
Reality is harsh, it's dangerous and nothing like the stuff we read in the bible. Reality can be far too frightening for some and so opt for a blind fold in the form of religion.


Of course, you can believe in what you want. If it gives you comfort then knock yourself out. Whatever floats your boat.

(June 10, 2011 at 1:30 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:

(June 10, 2011 at 11:57 am)Andrastos Wrote: My method of measurement in the Joy, happiness, Love, contentedness I feel growing ever stronger!
Let me give you an example what a prayer really is: if you’re walking down the street and you see an old lady struggling, and you feel compassion for her, even if you can't help. This is what prayer really is, it's an emotion you project of love and compassion for anyone anywhere!

Something else for you to ponder: Every time you sleep, your spirit body separates from your material body and enters the spirit world! You have two types of experiences in your sleep, one is dreams and one is actually sleep state experiences! Ever had a "dream" that felt was really real, good chance it was!
Dreams are designed to help you realize what emotions you are denying! And so need to deal with! Ever had a bad dream, well that emotion you feel about it wants to come out of you, a lot of people try to intellectualize dreams, no need, just feel them!

Wow. I've read through this and your other thread and I can't help but notice just how much of it is absolute bullshit.
I mean, seriously, at least sci-fi and fantasy authors at least try to make their respective fictions sound plausible within the context of their own stories.

Of course, I dont' know what's worse, the fact that you're peddling a rather awful fiction under the guise of being "absolute truth" or that you actually believe it to be true.

At least a few of the other theists around here attempt to contextualize their crazy belief system within the context of reality (even if it still ends up dismissing many of the proven sciences, save those that don't argue with their position or the pseudosciences they attempt to pass off as the real thing.)
You can't even come up with a legitimate arguement for your position without preaching your inane beliefs and not listening to the responses because you see that most of us who regular here have seen this sort of BS time and time again and while many of us would have bothered with more detailed responses in the past in an attempt to take your beliefs seriously most of us have seen saner beliefs spouted by similarly deluded individuals come and go and frankly few of us are going to bother doing anything other than calling it what it is.

Thats a really long sentance!

I like doing cross word but sometime I like playing monopoly by myself too, board games are really fun, but since they introduce into my asylum I really like to look at the stars and it's cool to fly in my spare time when I’m not too busy because I've never got anything to when I'm not so busy, so it's alright because I’m... ummmm yer umm its its alright at night, the stars are bright too when its not day!